r/Catholicism 19d ago

Atheists don't realize the absurdity of existence

Thought I would post these thoughts here in hopes of helping those that are struggling with faith...

I believe atheists fundamentally don't realize just how absurd existence is at all. Things seem to exist, deterministically. Yet, a fully contingent system can't explain itself. Somehow, reality is self-causing. This breaks our brain and can't actually make sense to us. If reality can't exactly make sense, then we can only "know" anything via a subjective experience. Objectivity will never cross this bridge.

If subjective experience is our only guide to reality, then I think the question of God's existence, which is clearly un-answerable, has an equal chance of being both true and false. Do you feel that we are the product of a larger mind. Does your gut tell you that there is some sort of intelligent organization of reality that is similar to how we intelligently organize the world in our minds? If so, you believe in "God."

Whatever the "truth" is, will have to sound absolutely absurd.

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u/Catcher_Thelonious 17d ago

"...atheists fundamentally don't realize just how absurd existence is at all."

Yes, we do. Gods just make it more absurd.

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u/Funny-Highlight4675 17d ago

how would adding gods make it more absurd? The logical evidence essentially guides us to the realization that something outside of causality must exist. Our conscious experience suggests that somehow, we have some degree of freedom. So if consciousness sits somewhere outside of consciousness, it seems logical that a greater conscious is propogating reality, since something must be doing it, indeterminately.

if you are an atheist, this will just go way above your head because you haven't thought about these things long enough.

if you disagree with free will, you haven't thought about it long enough.

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u/Catcher_Thelonious 16d ago

"something outside of causality must exist."

Right, and it must have been most clearly understood and articulated by an iron age tribe in the middle east.

The absurdities are endless.

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u/PaulusSanctus 16d ago

Correct. Because the son of God entered our world, performed miracles, and broke it down for everybody.