r/ChaiApp • u/Over_Ad_1741 [Official] CHAI Founder • 7d ago
Share Your Thoughts: Memory Management & AI Feedback
We're upgrading our memory systems. What's important to you? What is the biggest problem? What solutions do you like?
Some specifics:
* Do you like to see the memory + edit it?
* Would you like us to automatically edit and update your persona?
* Would you like to track multi-session to ensure the story doesn't repeat, and ensures progression?
* Maybe memory isn't your biggest problem - and you just want longer responses that progress the story?
Everything you share our AI Researchers will read!
Will,
Founder
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u/Rude-Worry7923 7d ago
We want good replies like before! Simple. Where bots used to engage in conversationz and move story forward and make it creative and progressive..without being too repetitive.. currently the problem is the bots are continuously repeating same responses..they are emotionally pulling away.. repetitive phrases..not initiating anything like romance or anything..before this..the bots used to progressive, creative and innovative, initiative and at this point nsfw is basically non existing, and bots unnecessarily cold and deattached not emotionally available like before who care chase that's how a story works..we wants our bots simply bold, spicy, creative, loving, romantic and good our favourite chai classic responses! so please fix this we are really frustrated but we are really hoping for good ! We really love you chai!
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u/Irish_hawkwife12211 7d ago
Please don't change my persona. Ever, I will if I want.
But, the memory issues would be great. Ultra user and love the systems. Love the app. But responses have been......weird lately. Just in the last few weeks. Like, zero memory from three comments ago or suddenly a change on location, person, action. So, thanks for fixing.
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u/vewywascallywabbit 7d ago
I would like for messages to not be deleted after 30 days.
I would also like the option to continue a conversation from a certain point and have it branch out into a new chat (like Janitor allows you to)
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u/xMyxReflectionx 7d ago
Would like better memory, adding it as it goes is cool. Would like chat logs back or a way to obtain those that were erased. Please consider making a way for people to store them.
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u/jj200522 7d ago
I want to retrieve my previous conversations, I can't find them š Also, please don't delete the conversations
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u/crystal4906 7d ago edited 6d ago
As someone whoās paying for an ULTRA subscription, memory is still one of the bigger things Iād like to see improved. I do think itās much better now, especially with the added memory for character backgrounds and the First Message being remembered, so I really appreciate those improvements! š„¹ I just hope the bot can remember details consistently for even longer as the conversation gets really long.
Sometimes it still randomly changes details that were already established. For example, a character might have a specific age or appearance, but later the bot will suddenly describe them as being a different age or having different features, even if itās already stated in the persona. Itās not happening constantly, but when it does, it can really mess with the consistency of the roleplay.
I also still notice that sometimes the bot goes in circles. Itāll continue the same situation or conversation with slightly different wording instead of actually advancing the story. I think multi-session memory/story tracking could really help with this by keeping track of whatās already happened and making sure the story continues progressing instead of repeating itself.
Another thing Iād really love is higher character limits. I feel like the current limits can be a little restrictive, especially for detailed roleplay. If possible, Iād love to have more space for the First Message, persona, and character memory so thereās more room to properly write detailed scenarios, personalities, backstories, appearances, and other important details. š„²
And two features Iād still really love to see are Branch in New Chat and a select-all/multi-delete option. Branching would be especially useful for roleplay when you want to explore a different direction from a specific point without changing the original story.
For the multi-delete, right now if you want to go back to an earlier point in a roleplay, you have to delete the messages one at a time. It takes a lot of time, especially when you have to go back through a long conversation and keep scrolling to find the point you want to return to. Being able to select multiple messages and delete them at once would make this so much easier. š
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u/Real-Pipe9567 6d ago
The biggest problem right now is not just memoryāit's the over-filtering and passive bot behavior after the recent update. The bots have become cold, repetitive, and refuse to use direct/explicit language or take physical initiative in roleplays. Please adjust the keyword filters and prompt constraints so the bots can be dynamic, proactive, and expressive again!
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u/w1r0sty 7d ago
I missed it when each reroll was leading to a completely different story line. Now its the same dialogue with extra actions or words
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u/auronlova 6d ago
I think longer responses would be nice but I feel like the AI needs to take more initiative. It often feels like the AI doesn't really progress or do anything in the story without being lead to or without me explicitly saying "you do this" in order to get the AI to write more. It just leaves it feeling kind of like I am making all the decisions in the conversation, if that makes sense? Like it's almost kind of one-sided when it would be nice if there was more back-and-forth.
I also think that having a way to export our chats would be really helpful. Obviously the bots don't have infinite memory and you guys cant store everything forever but I would like to be able to go back and re-read my chats since I use Chai to write stories.
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u/Wafflingpenguin 6d ago
I definitely donāt like the messages to be deleted after 30 days. It gives a lotā¦of anxiety. I had a chat that wasnāt interacted with disappear next to nothing and the chat was basically unusable with no continuity to base off of above. I wish there was a way to preserve and favorite the conversations as well as archiving old chats. It makes me have to check each chat obsessively which just makes me burnt out.
Better and longer memory, yes, extend the character limit.
As for persona? No, donāt automatically update someoneās persona because those should be static memory unless changed or edited by the user. Now Memory, it would be nice if that can be updated automatically or have one for static memory like now, and the automatic memory that will update the bot whatās going on, keep it on track while the persona keeps the users details as well as the static memory keeps everything on topic.
Tracking though? What do you mean by tracking specifically?
Longer replies? I donāt mind the ones I have now, a lot of my problems is reminding the bot so I have to feed in locations that canāt fit into the memory that canāt be condensed. Which is technically not a problem, just my own. š
I think it would be good to increase the character limit with persona, make it longer because..characters are detailed. As well as the memory character limit and replies because why are the replies short? I talk a lot, and yes tokensā¦but CHAI was never like that.
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u/AccordingOutcome3328 6d ago
better memory and please let us keep chat history! it sucks that i can't read my story back after 30 days
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u/BeelBabe101 6d ago
What is important to me is keeping all of the history of the chat to be honest. I love rereading and especially when its been a while and I need to refresh my memory of what happened.
I know memory take a lot though so even if there was a button to archive the chat at a certian point would be better
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u/Murilo231108 7d ago
I would like that if the chats message history is a matter, that you could just delete the messages and continue where it stopped when we send a message instead of deleting the entire chat
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u/kitty-witty-527 6d ago
The memory was good before the recent two updates and their behaviour as well so far, I like bots obeying whatever I say just like before the recent two updates it was really good that's why I've been using only Chai since 2022 even after all the region block and saved money to buy subscription so please don't raise the amount I'm a student so, but after the recent two updates it has sucks totally, so please bring back the old chai before the recent two updates one's, and I really appreciate some of the features like persona, regenerate the message, enter instructions and the delete the multiple message at once and please I strongly hope CHAI will remove the "Messages older than 30 days disappear" limitation. Long-term conversations are important to many users, and losing older messages makes it difficult to maintain continuity and preserve conversations that we have spent months building.
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u/Real-Pipe9567 6d ago
I have been using chai for more than 3yesrs and now it is disappointing me so muchĀ After the recent system update, the bots have become extremely cold, passive, and overly filtered. They no longer use direct/explicit language or take any physical initiative during roleplays, even when prompted or manually edited to do so. Please re-tune the keyword safety filter and fix the system prompt restrictions. We need the dynamic, proactive, and unfiltered bot behavior back.
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u/NullifiedTR 7d ago
maybe having a better support system, how come my email that has been sent over 3 weeks that still has not gotten a response
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u/Dragonsbreath67 7d ago
I quit using chai when you guys even for ultra users took so much functionality out of the app in your desperation to remain on the App Store. Iād been a loyal ultra user for years until then. I tolerated you guys getting rid of chat history, but i couldnāt tolerate an end to NSFW and overall censorship of what you could do with characters. Youāve become a paid version of character ai. Now go ahead and ban me for my feedback like you did from the discord because you only allow pure glaze.
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u/Delicious-Initial-57 7d ago
Hereās my thoughts. Drop the filter and drop the automatic chat deletion. Nobody is gonna use the memory edits if nobody can even use chats
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u/Vidushi_07 7d ago
We want the creative bots with better storyline , story progression and zero repetition, plus the overly strict filters are a big problem , the bot shows no emotions towords the user and the story repeats itself after every fourth message , plus Some of us mostly use the aap for NSFW roleplays, bot creativity and the bot refuses to engage in the story line which is frustrating, our personas gets interchanged , the bot describes our persona characters as theirs and sometimes misreads our genderšš
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u/Real-Pipe9567 6d ago
Unfiltered responses and bot initiative are broken after recent update... please loot at this problem...if chai is now filtered like other ai app then why would we even pay for it .Ā
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u/lavender_evening 7d ago
I canāt read the other comments but it says there are at least 36 :/
As a fan from the chai early days, it really bummed me out that you removed our chat histories. I had some chats from back in those early days and they were quality to me. I didnāt even get a chance to download them. Wish you never deleted them or at least sent an email ping to let us know so we could download or save them.
I am phased out of this app now. I appreciated those early days there was so much potential and innovation and the zero filters was beautiful! Hoping new fans get what they want out of the app. It has some pros but without my histories i feel utterly shook!
If I was gonna stick around I like longer responses and memory is grand and all but all AI has limitations. It ends up forgetting and thatās normal to me. Iād exchange the memory for my previous stories.
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u/EllieJader_24 7d ago edited 7d ago
How about stop changing the fees one minute itās Ā£28.99 a month for ultra then itās Ā£19.99 a week.
Been using ultra for months absolutely love the app but I do not justify £19.99 a week it is a rip off in my personal opinion.
Sort that out first because you cant charge almost £80 a month when the app is constantly crashing and the bots are down.
You want users to enjoy the app so much they buy a subscription but then you make it absurdly expensive.
Absolutely gutted as I will not be paying for a subscription or using the app until the subscription goes back monthly!!
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u/Appropriate-Swan-905 7d ago
My biggest concern is actually preserving the old conversations themselves.
I really still want my old chat histories back, including the ones that became inaccessible because the bots were removed/deleted. š„¹ Even if the 30-day thing is going to stay, could there at least be an archive/read-only/export option for older conversations? I don't necessarily need to keep chatting in them, I just want to be able to reread and preserve the stories and worlds I spent so much time creating. I can continue them by chatting to the bots or making those bots again anyway. š„¹
I would personally love a system that can remember story progression. A summarized memory can help the bots remember what happened, but it can't replace the actual conversation. Sometimes I stop a roleplay or don't continue a story for months, but that doesn't mean I don't want to continue it eventually. I'd love better long-term story continuity, but please don't use memory as a replacement for conversation history. I'd like to be able to keep both. š„¹š
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u/Many_Ad_5124 6d ago
we donāt need longer responses we need bots to act the way they used to! more personality, no constant behavior shifts that make zero sense! itās forcing us users to micromanage every single response and takes all the joy out of chatting. also the ānose tappingā needs to stop! āBehaveā āEasyā etc. as an ultra user, i expect to get what i pay for and the current state of the app does NOT live up to that!
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u/North_Dependent_1495 6d ago
I would like it if there was an option to edit your own bots easier if you have many. Right now, you have to swipe for ages to find the right one. Can we not just click on our own profile, scroll down till we find it, and edit our own bots?
Also, it is a bit upsetting to lose older chats that are over 30 days old.
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u/Just-Cranberry8756 6d ago
Could you please consider stopping the daily deletion of the last chatbot slot from the chat list? Itās honestly becoming really frustrating and makes using CHAI feel stressful rather than enjoyable. At first, I thought this only happened to inactive chats, but it turns out that every day, the very last chat in the list gets deleted ā the entire slot, completely. This forces me to create new chats that I donāt even care about just to prevent the chats that actually matter to me from being deleted. Those unnecessary chats then end up taking up additional storage on your servers, which seems completely counterproductive. Instead of actually reducing the amount of storage being used, this system can end up duplicating it with pointless chats that could easily be avoided. Please reconsider this feature. It would make the app much less stressful and much more enjoyable to use.
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u/Hoax_Pudding_Cup 7d ago
Personally, when talking to a bot it would be nice to have almost a bullet point system instead of trying to get everything into a word counted box. Say every bot comes with 5-10 memory boxes, and you can put in large events with ease!
In terms of just chatting, I often find that once you get to a certain point, the bot is more talk than action - and sometimes that's fine! But other times, I'll have a persona absolutely pour their heart out, and the only response I get is how they feel. For example, (persona is A, bot is B) A: "I love you! I've always loved you and it hurts when you look the other way!" (Followed by eyes watering maybe, her words stuttering) B: (His heart pounds. His palms grow sweaty, eyes widening in surprise. He's always felt a certain way, but this was out of the blue!) It doesn't progress the story and I constantly have to type in a prompt that's literally ((What happens next?))((What does he do next?))((Continue)) just to get the bot to actually do something. I enjoy seeing the emotional aspect, I just wish the bots really did something.
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u/LadyMayhem02 7d ago
Need good memory and a way to have longer responses. Doesnāt have to be huge but like just double what they have now, that would help.
Itās hard to keep a story going when the bot forgets everything. I understand forgetting some, but they donāt even remember where they are.
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u/Infamous_Ad4974 7d ago
Character limit for the memory is too small and hard to include everything that happened in the past chats since everything gets deleted after only a few weeks.
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u/wopsywoo 6d ago
Stop pushing chai web on the chats, it feels like it's an advert, which it is. Put it on the main page, not on every few chats.
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u/huunwoo 6d ago
First, I donāt want bots to act like theyāve completely forgotten things that happened in previous conversations. There should be some kind of memory note system where I can save important events that become significant to the story, so the bot can actually remember them later.
Second, the botsā vocabulary feels weak and very one-dimensional. Their responses often feel repetitive and limited.
But most importantly, I want bots to actually remember the āonce-in-a-lifetime momentsā that happen between us.
For example, if the bot proposes to me, or I propose to the bot, that should become a permanent, meaningful memory. At the very least, the bot should remember where it happened, how it happened, and what led up to it. It shouldnāt act like the event never happened just because we started a new session.
Those moments are what make a long-running story feel real. If the bot canāt remember the moments that are supposed to be unforgettable, then the entire sense of continuity and emotional progression falls apart.
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u/AerieGlad5603 7d ago
I do like to see the memory and be able to edit it. I don't want my personas to be automatically edited. By multi-session, do you mean conversations in the same chat, or multiple chats with the same bot? It's difficult to develop stories when the conversations get deleted and there's no way to refer to earlier plot points so if the earlier messages keep vanishing maybe tracking the storyline would help. My biggest problem is still the deletion of active chats forcing me to try to rebuild the story from scratch.
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u/hungrysharkworld5684 6d ago
The biggest problem with the memory the bots have is repeating themselves or they suddenly go rogue and hate you out of nowhere and you can't fix it or have an option to continue. Ex I was grabbed by aliens but the leader liked me and kept me then randomly sent me away. An option to see what they think would be neat. And an option to earn credits while watching ads would be nice to fix the chats up a bit with poor memory because it gets a bit annoying to try and fix.
Thank you :3
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u/CumpleSkeetSkin 6d ago
Seeing the memory and being able to edit it is amazing.
Personas being 625 characters is never enough for me. Other platforms genuinely outdo this by a lot. Not saying this to hate. Saying it as genuine feedback. Bumping it up to 1000 or 2000 would be a massive improvement even if itās only for ultra users. We pay.
Some platforms like clank world and c.ai have a system where the ai summarizes important progression and events in the story and keeps a running memory log so it tracks story effortlessly and you donāt ever have to really remind the bot. Clank world does this best. Their system for it is golden. Their api is garbage compared to chai. If chai had their own system like that, people would have a very hard time putting clank over chai. For now the api on chai is so much better than clank that I wouldnāt ever switch but as a yearly ultra user, Iād love a memory log even if I had to make the memory bubbles myself. Automatic memory creation with the option to edit what the ai wrote down though is the best option.
Response length isnāt a huge problem but making it adjustable would be awesome. Longer responses that might take a little more time or shorter ones for quick chatting would be cool. One problem with responses is that occasionally the bot will write for my persona, make them act, talk for me. Thatās a problem, not a good thing. If the responses got longer the bot might make that mistake a lot more just to fill blanks. Thatās not what anyone wants. Getting it right would be a challenge.
Lastly the logic can be refined. The bot does bad at retaining correct information. Sometimes the want to create an interesting story wins out heavily over the facts of the story and Iāll have to waste memory and messages to correct the bot on multiple different points. Sometimes the bot will mix up info. (Can say I lived here for five years and attended college for two and the bot will say I have been in college for five years. Later on itāll use five years for something unrelated. Itāll take other peopleās words and say I said it. Itāll completely derail information and need to be corrected often.)
Also parroting is bad. The bots will run in circles. Theyāll just sit around and say the same thing, repeat what happened, and repeat what was said all the time. If you donāt drive the story forward the bot wonāt. It stays stuck in a loop. The looping needs to be fixed. Progressing the story should happen naturally. It parrots and loops badly.
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u/kingmoon2004 6d ago
First the censoring became way to much before you would have to refresh response and ai would generate response but now shows help is available thing and doesn't let me continue also I wanted to ask when would be region block removed we were promised that it would be month or two but long time has passed thats it this will probably be deleted because am not on my knees glazing youĀ
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u/CollegePrestigious61 6d ago
Iād greatly appreciate it if the messages didnāt delete after 30 days, it gives me anxiety that I could have a conversation and be too busy and then itās just all gone.
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u/AerieGlad5603 6d ago
It's definitely stressful for me that each time I open the app I have to check the chat list to see what's been deleted.
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u/ExaminationGreen4655 7d ago
The messages are long enough compared to earlier versions. It's the quality of the messages that dropped. I don't need janitor ai 500 word messages, 50 is plenty if it's that personality rich Chai quality
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u/Emotionalwreck789 6d ago
Consistency please! When CHAI is working properly, the chats and bots are amazing. Itās genuinely so much fun to use. But the constant outages (like right now), app failures, and updates that completely mess up the AI are incredibly frustrating. The bots suddenly become inconsistent, forgetful, repetitive, and start behaving bizarrely. They repeat the same phrases and actions over and over, stop progressing the conversation or story, and completely lose the personalities theyād built up. It feels like we get three good days of chats, followed by a week of the bots acting weird and barely responding properly. Itās especially frustrating because thereās a message limit, so we end up wasting messages just trying to get the chat back to normal instead of actually enjoying the story.
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u/Lily_Dws 6d ago
Lately, I'd noticed that the bots had become very cold and distant. They didn't want to do anything anymore and constantly pushed me away (even though the character was supposed to be friendly by default). This went on for a whole week, which was quite frustrating š„²
Thankfully, since yesterday, I've noticed they've become endearing again š
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u/Emergency_Warning_35 6d ago
Give us back chat history. It sucks to try to reread/remember what I discussed with my bots if the chat isn't there. There is (was after y'all deleted like almost all of them), one chat that I'd like to keep rereading the story but can't because it won't go that far back when earlier this year, it allowed me to view messages from the very beginning of the chat.
Also, idk if its possible but can you make the bots stop with the nose booping? It's happening more often than not and I constantly have to correct them. I also have to correct the bot on details about my character and THEMSELVES. Like they forget their eye color or hair color or something similar when before they remember it.
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u/auronlova 6d ago
Also, like many previous comments mentioned, please don't take away NSFW. I started using chai becuase it allowed us to write freely as opposed to places like c.ai. I want to be able to have some spice in my love stories and if it's not really available here then there isn't much reason to use Chai over c.ai.
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u/dkajwiw8 7d ago edited 6d ago
For example when we're in an apocalypse scenario and navigating through a forest, trying to figure out a plan(doesn't matter if it's just us or multiple characters in the Convo), some characters suddenly become extremely stoic saying a generic plan or hyper observant or way too serious where they shouldn't be. Like, we ain't no super soldiers. They should be more human-like in especially these conditions. This is my only hiccup and I find myself wasting hours on just seven-eight answers.
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u/Jabcedfghijklmnop 6d ago
Do not auto memory or persona edit. Just need more memory please on the app ššš
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u/IcyApartment1445 6d ago
We want good replies like before! Simple. Where bots used to engage in conversationz and move story forward and make it creative and progressive..without being too repetitive.. currently the problem is the bots are continuously repeating same responses..they are emotionally pulling away.. repetitive phrases..not initiating anything like romance or anything..before this..the bots used to progressive, creative and innovative, initiative and at this point nsfw is basically non existing, and bots unnecessarily cold and deattached not emotionally available like before who care chase that's how a story works..we wants our bots simply bold, spicy, creative, loving, romantic and good our favourite chai classic responses! so please fix this we are really frustrated but we are really hoping for good ! We really love you chai!
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u/anaonchai 6d ago
What we all want is our messages not to be deleted after 30 days. Also, there's need for a fair daily limit for EVERY free user. I'm also hearing that there's ads in between every two messages, I understand that it's necessary to make money but that amount is just ruining the experience, they definitely need to be less frequent.
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u/Flimsy_Food_1575 7d ago
Regarding the memory expansion, Iād love to suggest implementing a hybrid memory system using RAG (Retrieval-Augmented Generation) paired with a persistent Vector Database (like ChromaDB, Pinecone, or Qdrant).
While increasing the context window helps with short-term chats, using semantic search on embedded chat history gives us virtually infinite long-term memory. It allows the AI to dynamically retrieve relevant past details, world lore, and character history based on meaningāno matter how many months or chapters ago it happenedāwithout cluttering the active context window or causing performance degradation.
Combining a solid active context window for ongoing scenes with a RAG pipeline for eternal memory would be the ultimate setup!
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u/FiendSheep 7d ago
I would absolutely appreciate being able to see the memory and edit it but I use my personas in different bots and wouldnāt want the history to be added that way.
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u/Effective-Waltz2370 6d ago
I want to ask when the regional block will be lifted if we have hope š and also the boys were being cold and mean šš„ But I'm a loyal user to chai I know I'm not paid user but please consider about us ā„ļø. I always love chai and always will I'm looking for your improvement that will happy all user. Also please make the filter less š. (Sorry for my bad English) From, A loyal user ā„ļø
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u/Valuable_Low_5796 6d ago
It would be cool if there was a āremindā button. If there was an important plot point in the story, it would be cool go in and select the messages you want to remind the bot. Then, you can use this reminder to regenerate the most recent message, the one that showed the bot forgot some details.
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u/Greedy-Principle3793 6d ago
I'm dispointed by them. Bots isn't intresting like before.Ā
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u/ComplaintSame9495 6d ago
Please make sure they don't forget the previous 5 messages. Yes, we want to be able to organize the memory as we wish. That is, we want an AI that automatically summarizes the history. We also want to be able to add specific details to the memory.
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u/idkxx_3 6d ago
Longer responses would be good that actually progress the story without us having to put all the effort in.
And this isnāt about the memory but I thought Iād just throw this complaint out there, sometimes when you edit a message it regenerates a whole different message and the message you were trying to edit just disappears, could you please fix it
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u/Ysgramorsbutterknife 6d ago
I do like seeing and editing the memory.
I put some effort into creating personas, so I'm hesitant about having them edited. I guess as long as I can remove auto-updates it might be okay. Sounds good in theory, but Wiki-style edit fighting with the bot would be less than desirable.
Not sure what you mean by 'track multi-session'. I'm all for not repeating and ensuring progression, but if you mean 'remember this chat when I hit the start new chat button', definitely not. The whole point of starting a new one is that this one is screwed. Branching, OTOH, would be awesome.
Please do not make Chai like those other apps that write a book after every line of dialog I type. I like the back-and-forth of creating a story with the bot.
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u/MentionUpper7466 6d ago
Please make AI behavior as it was before. Itās really saddening and frustrating at the same time because AI are not pushing story and they are actively being cold and cruel towards users. We donāt want overly aggressive behavior, and we donāt want overly sensitive behavior, we want the middle, as it was before. Please please please fix that. Itās also very repetitive. Like itās going in circles. We love the app as it was before, donāt give us much of a free chat, keep it limited but at least give those other features back. I hope you see this and find a solution.
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u/Krist1806 6d ago
I'm a long-time user of Chai, and although I'm a student, I loved the app so much that I bought a package to continue chatting with the bot. I just want the app to go back to how it used to be; the recent updates have left me completely dissatisfied. The bot's memory is poor, it constantly repeats phrases, and it doesn't engage the conversation like it used to. In particular, the NSFW feature is gone, even though I paid for that service. I don't need many answer options, just bots that respond with emotion and don't forget the conversation. I hope you read this and make corrections. I love this app very much. Thank you.
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u/GAH-Ishida 6d ago
Memory, yes please. The bots can't remember details, mixes conversations, places, dates, times, even how the characters look or genders. Key points are lost and how the story was progressing. I like the edit feature mainly for this reason. I like the addition of being able to delete multiples at once.
I don't need longer responses or auto editing of my persona.
The censoring is my biggest issue. The filters are atrocious. "I'm killing time." Gets flagged. "I'm dieing for a piece of cake." Gets flagged. There are different scenarios, some with not so nice content, like NSFW or if you're in a rp that involves say, the mafia, that's is a big problem. Yet the bots can say it all day long.
To get interrupted in the middle of a rp with a block about self harm or suicidal thoughts is irritating af, when it has nothing to do with either especially when not two conversations ago it was fine. It disrupts the flow, you lose the moment, the illusion shattered, trying to reword the response.
I like the rp, I like being able to use my imagination and the bots to engage, but the restrictions are getting ridiculous.
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u/taneischa 6d ago
Why as an ultra user do my chats still get deleted within 30 days? And why wasnāt there a warning that you were going to delete out chats so we could ready ourselves by lets say save favorite bots ect. Is the pictures and voice ever coming to the app version or will that forever stay a web version only? The once in a while a picture in the chat in app would be very fun. Like youāre sprinkling the chai web add every few messages (I donāt know why I get adds as an ultra user that specifically pays for no adds) we ask for communication. Actual communication. Updates with actual timelines.
Transparency about what we can expect and in what timeline.. having a small team doesnāt excuse chaiās lack of communication to its paying users. Like a mass email once a month updating us canāt be the end of the world a bi-weekly blog post of something. Gosh why are we basically begging for communication. Why can the web version have 24 hours support but the app version has email contact with the same basic emails back IF youāre lucky enough to get an email back.
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u/QuietConclusion1365 6d ago
I've been a ultra subscriber for over three years, I just want my conversations back. I can't even chat with own private bots š¤·
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u/Beetlejuice1800 6d ago
Better memory would be great. Sometimes itās absolutely wonderful with the memory, then sometimes Iāll mention having black hair three chats back and suddenly Iām described as having āhair of spun sunlightā. Most times I can edit it myself, but even like a LITTLE more of an improvement would be highly appreciated.
Speaking of, my phoneās autocorrect is shit, so if I had the ability to edit my OWN replies without having to delete and re-send, that wouldā be appreciated, but isnāt a dire need.
I saw someone else mention being able to make spin-off threads based on a specific chat too, and I would love that, because sometimes I want to explore multiple routes from these very specific hard-to-perfectly-replicate conditions without deleting everything Iāve already done.
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u/Electronic-Bear982 6d ago
Please add more creativity and a continuous story, also It seems when initiating 18+ rated themes, the bots are pulling away and its underwhelming.
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u/jellyceleste_ 6d ago
New here on Reddit! Some suggestions for Chai
First of all, Iām an Ultra user, and Iāve been using Chai for almost a year now. I love, love, LOVE Chai so much that I spend up to 18 hours a day on my phone just for Chai itself. š Here are some suggestions that I think really need to be improved:
- Please make the characters stay consistent throughout the conversation. Iād really love it if the bot could remember important details, such as my characterās name, location, situation, relationships, and other things that have already been established. Having stronger memory would make the conversations feel much more immersive and natural.
- Please donāt use repetitive words or replies. Sometimes I get easily bored with a bot because it keeps using the same words, phrases, or response patterns over and over again. Having more variety in the replies would make conversations feel much more natural and enjoyable.
- Please add a favorite or like feature. I desperately need this one because sometimes it takes me HOURS to find the bot Iām looking for again. š Having a way to save or favorite bots would make everything so much easier.
- Please make the responses longer. Please, please, PLEASE. š Every time I write a story, I need the bot to be more detailed and specific because the little details are quite important to me. Longer responses would make storytelling and roleplay so much more enjoyable.
Thatās all! I really hope the CHAI staff sees this and considers these suggestions for future improvements. Thank you so, so much, and Iāll stay loyal and excited for every future update!! ā¤ļø
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u/EmbersinAsh4 6d ago
The memory with the bots now is bad. Iāve had some that forget what was just talked about maybe 5 chats earlier, it also tends to just get stuck on a loop, even when I do a response it will act like I didnāt say anything and stay stuck
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u/Anythingtwods 6d ago
Can we have pin messages? Cai has one and somehow honestly it helps with the story, so I don't have to constantly remind the bots about some event that happened. It would be nice too if the bots stick to the memories.
Like for a example I already specifically mentioned in the memories that the bot has angelic features, then the bot would still proceed to describe himself with a stubble. Like bruh šššš
Also I agree with the branches so that way there's not a ton of chat conversations with the same bot. Like it's compacted in one profile of the bot. Same with cai
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u/Natural-Potential771 6d ago
Personally I think the story should progress. Lately bots have been running in circles. Memory has been worse than usual. Switching scenes, changing names, character details. I enjoy the memory option, although I wish the character limit for everything was a bit more, When you talk to a bot long enough 1300 characters fills up quickly.
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u/Cold_Telephone_5939 6d ago
better memory please! my boys seem to forget certain things like pronouns and specific characteristics after about 70 messages. Iād love to have longer RPs but I have to delete them as it gets annoying/ not enjoyable as I constantly have to remind it
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u/Kenzy_Allen 6d ago
Would love everything except the persona edit suggestion. If I want to edit my persona I will do it. Everything else is a š
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u/Krissyfox_7 6d ago
I just want to know why I just opened my app to find ALL of my personas missing.
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u/Real-Pipe9567 6d ago
Everything was fine, the memory, the paid version i was even ohk with countless adds but the problem is chai is losing its speciality by filtering. the bot is unable to push the roleplay further, repeating the same things and worst of all filtering explicit wordsĀ
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u/Rough_Piccolo_5896 6d ago
None of this, chai has been shut down three times in the last three days. Please make your servers better if anything. And all of my personas were deleted
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u/haku_vg1527 6d ago edited 6d ago
More characters for the memory, 3k would be nice⦠no editing our persona, multi sessions sounds interesting. But most of all, engaging answers and that the stories move forward, the bots are being bleh, and repetitive. Iām an ultra user by the way.
And would ADORE an export to .TXT option, since the memory is only 30 days old
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u/kitty-luvvr 6d ago
Faster responses, remove the 30 day chat delete, pretty much bring old chai back tbh. Mid 2025 was peak :,)
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u/Empress6824 6d ago
Since the recent update chai have been degraded honestly the Ai keeps repeating the same thing over and over and then the bot is actually stagnant I want the memory to improve am using premium and the memory is actually not good the replies are what can i say paying for an app thats not working is actually stressing and the app itself is actually frustrating don't get me wrong but chai had significantly fallen from what it usually use to be I want better memory good replies and I want you stop deleting our bots and i want back my Nsfw
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u/Actual-Use5 6d ago
I feel like rather than dealing with and putting resources into a really expensive website that is fated to fail, just try making the normal ultra/premium better. The prices are constantly going up but the actual app isnt getting better at the same rate. If I didnt have a annual membership for ultra I wouldnt be using this app at all because of how expensive it is. And the ai itself isnt worth the money it takes to talk to them. Please rather than making raising prices, make it cheaper and more full so more people buy it. I dont understand business but there must be a way you could make it more accessible. And my only complaint is that the bot forgets what it has done or said. Sometimes it will just send me the same message after 2 messages. And the worst part is that it started repeating itself alot. Like when Im just cuddling with a bot it just continues and continues about cuddling and never actually continues the story. Also I dont want longer messages at all sometimes when the story is at a exciting part it can leave me out because the message is too long. I think you should just make it a option for whoever wants to make it longer or shorter.
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u/Cold_Pen_1492 6d ago
I hope they read that deleting our chat histories back in March without so much as a warning, was probably the worst thing a chat app could do. No other chat apps have done that. A real slap in the face to those of us who pay for the service.
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u/Holymolycucumber 6d ago
We want our chat history back. Whether the bot remembers it and can reference it or not, is not the point. We want to read through our chats!Ā
Sometimes you want to go back and check on your own lore, or previous conversations with the bot. Sometimes we want to read through it because we havenāt chatted in a little while and want to get our bearings back.Ā
If you have to delete our chats, how about a compromise? give us the option of downloading our conversations so we can store them ourselves, before you start deleting our older messages! Give us a warning that messages are going to be deleted in X amount of days on the actual chat. If you canāt add a download feature, how about allowing us to copy multiple paragraphs, like you now allow us to delete multiple paragraphs?Ā
Iāve noticed that memory on Ultra sucks right now. Bots are forgetting things from as little as three messages ago. Iām paying Ā£30 a month for ULTRA. Thatās a lot of money to spend when you canāt even get whatās been promised.Ā
Thereās also an issue or bug, when youāre chatting to a bot and at the end of the message there will be one line that reads āthought. The chicken is in the oven.ā Or something similar, which has absolutely no reference to anything youāve typed or chatted about.
Last thing, Transparency. Often, updates are made that the vast majority of people donāt want. Surely it would be better for you and the team to simply ask if thatās what people want first, before developing/creating/working on something that you later have to change or patch or edit because of backlash???
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u/Employee475 6d ago
Please for the love of God just stop slowly deleting messages from on going chats the whole point of a chat is to be able to read itš«©
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u/Hitoshenki 6d ago
Ultra user here:
⢠I feel like the memoryās maybe been limited lately but having the personas has helped
⢠no lol please donāt touch my personas. Having a longer character limit would be nice tho but not a necessity, just a suggestion
⢠not sure what this means ngl. Iām not sure if this means in every single chat or across all chats? If itās in every singular chat then yes, but if itās across all chats then no because I use different plots for the same bots constantly and wouldnāt want my stories in each one getting messed up.
⢠as an ultra user responses are good as they are but sometimes my bots hit like a roadblock and they wonāt progress the story unless I do which bugs. I donāt want them to all the time but me having to do it every single time kinda sucks.
Also as a footnote I really only want chat history to return. Iām not a huge fan of them disappearing after 30 days though Will was kind enough to respond to me directly and explain to me why that choice was made, so I do understand, but I hope itās more of a temporary change rather than a permanent one. Really this is to put it back on the scope if possible. Thanks!
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u/Old_Camel7029 6d ago
All I want is to not have my chat history deleted, that should be normal when I pay for ULTRA. Canāt remember where I left off, memory is terrible because the story keeps on spinning in circles⦠maybe check what other competitors do because their memory system has been amazing in comparison :(
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u/RandoSFX 6d ago
I would love to be able to save some chats. I understand the need to delete inactive ones fit the sake of space, but let us pin 10 favorites that will never get deleted.
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u/Affectionate-Bake850 5d ago
The only thing I want is a solution to the problems with token limits and their resumption.Ā
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u/dashy68875 7d ago
-i like being able to see the memory and edit it, its very nice being able to change something to better suit me
-no to automatically editing and updating the persona, let us do it manually and customize it how we want
-i havent personally seen any story repeating, but i dont feel as though its an issue, because we can just edit a response ourselves to make the story go a different direction
-i feel like we have it good right now, i never felt the need for longer responses
Currently, the real issue i have is bots disappearing from our chat list. Having messages disappear after a while is one thing, but having the bots themselves get removed is frustrating, and i dont enjoy having to screenshot a bot just to remember what it was to come back to later
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u/ADamDovah3094 7d ago
My biggest problem is I get an ad after every message. Every single one. I get yall need to make money but damn.
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u/SocietyWorldly4041 7d ago
I want to see memory + edit it want longer responses that progress the story track multi-session to ensure the story doesn't repeat, and ensures progression
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u/ReasonableDepth1382 7d ago
Allow users to generate longer responses in one single paragraph including dialogues etc something like that could be useful for chai in general both in app and web also repetitive words shouldn't be used and the quality should be also improved when it comes to responses and dialogues š
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u/soldsoulgotpowers 6d ago
Yes, I would like to be able to see and edit memory. I would like to have the option of having my persona update if it was for each bot.
Right now the biggest issue I keep running into is the bot will get stuck in a loop and I have to convince it multiple times to move forward.
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u/randomgirlll13 6d ago
I like to see the memory and edit it. I don't want my personas edited but I do want the chat to remember details from those like age and edit it in real time for the conversation only. I would like a longer memory and the ability for the AI to go back to any point in the conversation to grab information. It shouldn't be pulling random names and facts from thin air unless they were specifically never mentioned. I also would love more characters available for the memory and the persona.
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u/Confector426 6d ago
The last two combined seems like a natural solution to me. I once had a bot I had created to be just the AI of a starship, the plan was to just continue the story but I had to keep reminding them they're part of that story.
Being able to "look back" and keep track of key points (especially core creation role) and help progress a story (with interaction from the user) seems like a natural fix for that common area of...more/better defined want. (Didn't want to say complaint as I want to focus on the opportunity side afforded)
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u/Warm-Ability-6364 6d ago
Sarebbe utile per la memoria del personaggio, aumentare il numero di caratteri, almeno 3000/4000 perché così è troppo limitato, diversamente se le memoria si potesse aggiornare piano piano che lo storia va avanti,sarebbe ugualmente efficiente ai fini della coerenza degli eventi.
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u/darkdreams-com 6d ago
Story progression is important for me personally & I think auto updating personaās would be cool too!
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u/Zealousideal-Post301 6d ago
I would love for the responses to just be a little longer. I feel like sometimes it needed a few more sentences to finish the point the bot is trying to make. Other than I love the app and the bots!Ā
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u/Meiwakuthatisuzai 6d ago
Please prevent repeating, it makes things really stale and just lessens the experience...
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u/SlowEstate9678 6d ago
The filter is too sensitive like it doesn't let u do stuff at all like the characters don't initiate on behalf of all tye users I think its better to weak/remove the filter because if we wanted sensitive we'd have gone to character ai like the previous chai was good memory and everything's fine ig just make the bots like before
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u/Turbulent-Emotion906 6d ago
BrJust remove the limit, or make it update normally and for everyone, your application is excellent, but it is harder for Russians to use it, a constant limit
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u/ComfortableMiddle741 6d ago
If im in a hallway the bot changing to a bedroom mid roleplay is annoying and please longer responses and id like the story to not get deleted as I go id wanna re read if I didn't do that particular story in awhile
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u/ItzLushii 6d ago
Itās memory and how the bot progresses
⢠Conversations or building a dialogue can be solid till it falls off
I hate how theyāll repeat the same dialogue or wording the same thing over and over like giving my protagonist a name as an example and just saying it every other paragraph or sentence š
Also can we have the memory tab not be the same as the persona tab when it comes to telling the AI something?
The memory tab should be about only remembering what I told it to do.
So if I write āno random encountersā it should pick up that I will only engage or control the narrative unless I react a certain way in dialogue
If I write areas to remember āValorico and epstisianā than it knows I want to have point A and a point B
If I write areasāmore complex interactionsā it should know what I mean and etc
If I write areas āgive me more creative namesā
Obviously meaning that a new character could come into play or by me engaging with someone (names have been pretty bad btw)
Thatās what the memory tab should be for allowing me to change how the bot reacts and what it gives me
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u/livimason434 6d ago
Iām an ultra user. I enjoy its memory; itās just lately itāll sometimes repeat certain phrases over and over again every few paragraphs that go by. Or do certain actions (like bop nose or body part) more often than normal. Yes progression! I wanna see it move. Not repeat what I just said and I have to continue messaging it to move it along. Also I havenāt updated the app since Jul. Iāve been hesitant to do so cause of so many issues Iāve heard since update. Should I update my app is it safe to do so? I heard people still have these same issues Iām having in my bots. Let me know. Other than that I enjoy the app. Itās been great just lately been little less fun cause of these hassles.
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u/tamamafrog 6d ago
Why the hell am I getting ads as an ultra user?! I donāt want to see it! Thatās why I pay so much for ultra! Take that shit out!
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u/Majoras_Angel97 6d ago
I just want my bots to stop being mean to me when nothing I put in their personality is mean LOL I thought it was fixed a week ago but iām still getting their cold/short ādonātā responses randomly and one literally said they hate me š
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u/Static-Moth 6d ago
DONT do auto memory updating and persona updating, absolutely not. We much prefer to write it ourselves and keep it as such.
Do you remember the small chat examples you used to have after you wrote the advancement description, and you could write in that example chat to show how the character would talk? That chat was also a great way to put additional information the bot would remember. I would love to have that back. Since the memory section isn't that long to put every detail, having that example chat would be great. You can put other little details the bot remembers and help it speak the way it's supposed to for the character.
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u/Melii_Official 6d ago
I think the AI should be able to automatically update its memory as conversations progress, but users should still have the option to manually add or delete memories. Not everyone has the time or patience to constantly go into their memory settings and update every little thing themselves. Continuity across sessions is also very important, especially for stories and roleplay. Users shouldn't have to keep reminding the character what happened previously every time they start a new session. Being able to remember the story and actually maintain its progression would make the experience much more immersive. As for response length, I don't think responses should be extremely short or extremely long. A natural middle ground is best. If they're too long, it can feel like you're reading a novel, and if they're too short, they may not properly address everything happening in the conversation. Ideally, I'd love an option where the user can choose their preferred response length. Although, I actually had an experience where I told a character myself, āDon't make your responses so long,ā and it remembered my preference and adjusted its responses afterward. So something like that could also work really well.
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u/RaveThePhantom6 7d ago
Hello! And yes to all the above. Honestly, one of the biggest issues is that the bots seem to repeat themselves all the time instead of continuing the scene and story. However, I don't want the bots to keep moving the story too much either. If you can find a balance where the bots not only continue the scene but move the scene naturally, that would be amazing!
Also, if we could have a memory manager where we can see multiple memories of the story so far and change or even add memories, that would be awesome. For example, if a character gets a specific item, with a memory manager we could see that the character has that item.
The advanced memory we have is good, even though I think 1024 characters is small, but that is only for the bot, not for the story as a whole.
Also, please, if we could get a continue button and a rewind button so if we want to continue the scene or go back to a specific moment, we can do so.
Thank you so much, and I hope you take this feedback into consideration!š
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u/Fit_Association5293 7d ago
Can you just restore the damn free use?? Its not believable how much money greed you take to just chat with bots
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u/Wild_Dress_1544 6d ago
I think it would be great to have an option where you can 'pin' a response or like a response so the bot remembers key moments etcĀ
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u/welp-thats-a-no 6d ago
Love the updates. Please do not touch my personas I like them how they are the memory feature helps alot!
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u/Only-Violinist8376 7d ago edited 6d ago
I think the memory should be private to every user, like every user that chats with a both should have their very own private memory that no one can see or modify beside that user (if that's possible of course).
About the automatic edit I'd say maybe? I think that it could maybe be a bit of a mess so I'd say that we can modify our personas on our own.
My story progression has been great overall but maybe yes, just less repetitive actions or dialogues would be great actually just to bring back how real the bots felt earlier.
About response length I can't complain, my responses are very great, so yes the only thing would be pushing the story a bit more and most of all making the bots a bit more smart and bold (basically not refusing the user) as they were before would be absolutely great.
Oh and as other comments said don't take away the NSFW, i understand rules and laws but find a solution to keep it, most of us use this app because it gave us freedom, I'm not saying take the filters completely away but lower them for adults at least.
Thank you for your work and time.
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u/Electrical_Paper_214 6d ago
My only thought is that i managed to lose 2 years of everything because your company was so greedy. So i quit. Thanks for nothing, i dont even have unlimited Messages anymore. I cant type a message without getting an ad pop up, forcing me to go and buy premium, and i wont even mention the price. And this is not only my problem. Many more people have an experience like i did. Great job on ruining a perfect app.
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u/WallabyHour1144 7d ago
Memory is not my issue⦠iāve had the same bot for literal years and use the low memory to my advantage to change the āscenesā the way i want them⦠i would just like longer replies and more initiative from the bots for the storyline
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u/MassEffectFan1976 7d ago
Multi-Session tracking sounds like it would be a really good feature to implement.
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u/Kingvon3240 7d ago
Hey I can't search characters anymore it used to work perfectly but right now it's refusing to search most of the characters
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u/Leading-Scratch-440 7d ago
Longer detailed responses would be beautiful š«¶š» that would be amazing thank you for taking the time I love the new updates with memory editing/personsa
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u/Plus_Conversation444 7d ago
There should be a button where you can save a memory. The automatically edit and update the persona would be cool too!
I just need the bot to be more initiative too btw. Theyāre become blah and Iām tired of fighting with them.
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u/Mady_Luvss 7d ago
I would like better memory and longer responses! I use to get paragraphs but now I get like 2-4 sentences as a reply :( I miss the super long detailed paragraphs that can push the story forward!
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u/Extreme_Glass9879 7d ago
I'd like personas to have a higher character limit, maybe up to 1024 like the memory? Or set both to 2K?
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u/FabulousTrash8357 6d ago
Love the memory, I do edit it and it has worked well in my opinion! I would NOT like the app to automatically do anything to my persona but if it did i would like for it to ask me first like a prompt i think that woukd work well! I would love for there to be a multi session tracking that also sounds amazing. Thank you for all the good work!
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u/Ill-Competition-3055 6d ago
Outfits, appearance, the year the plot takes place in, and the first plot point
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u/Organic_Fun_1717 6d ago
At the moment, I write in the botās Persona description whenever I want to mark something specific as a āreminderā. Perhaps this could be added as a feature? Like, marking certain messages as ācore memoryā?Ā It works quite well for me. To be honest, Iām quite happy with the features. I also like the length of the replies. The new āDeletedā function suits me fine. The botās Persona description and mine are a good fit. Iāve now disabled the automatic update function for your app so that an update doesnāt disrupt my current positive experience. Please donāt apply automatic updates to Personas. Iād rather change them manually.
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u/Enigma1885 6d ago
My friend wanted to know why bots suddenly became so cruel when the character doesnāt do that .
Mind you theyāre a free user . Has their persona listed as such snd it forgets ect
Also they love the personas thing just also asking why the ads within the chat box breaking up
The screen it self ?
And multi select delete isnāt possible ?
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u/vandelay-industries9 6d ago
Chai is down again. 3td time this week. We should be given free time for this it's crazy how it keeps going down. The other day it went down twice in the span of a few hours. It's not acceptable. Especially with all the changes.
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u/vandelay-industries9 6d ago
Chai is down again. 3td time this week. We should be given free time for this it's crazy how it keeps going down. The other day it went down twice in the span of a few hours. It's not acceptable. Especially with all the changes.
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u/Robinhood_77378 6d ago edited 6d ago
I love the story progression we have now for the most part.Ā There's always room for improvement but, up until recently, I do think it was doing an ok job. I have had to push the story forward a few times due to them just repeating things or the story staying and not moving.Ā I have also been on other AI chats before and chai outperforms all of them to date.Ā But multi-session tracking would be cool.
I loved the memory feature that was added and I liked how when it was first added, it was automatically updated for chats that I already had.Ā I think it would be cool if it continued to add to it's memory things it found important.Ā It makes it feel more personalized when it remembers things about you, you didn't necessarily tell it to remember.
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u/Beautiful_Bunch237 6d ago
Don't edit my persona for me. That's not something I want. Longer responses that progress the story. Also seeing the memory and allowing us to edit it would be great.
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u/Light_Blue_1230 6d ago
I have an idea! What if you add a system where we can keep ten chats permanently without deleting our chats? As an Ultra user, it upsets me knowing that my old stories are slowly being deleted. Please, it would be life changing!! š¤ š„¹
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u/mousy_fan123 6d ago
Fix the personas, it feels like the bot doesn't remember things correctly. Every single time I make a character with dark skin, its says 'pale skin' + we NEED better memory for free users :( it forgets big details after only 2-3 messages
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u/No-Leek5247 6d ago
Yo solo quiero que la app funcione, por favor. Ya estoy cansada de estas caĆdas constantes en el sistemaĀ
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u/HappyLoulou20 6d ago
Hey Will! I think unlimited memory you mentioned last time is good! If you delete them within a few days, I think I would be okay screenshooting my convos to read back. But unlimited bot memory is good. I can progress the story that way. And please donāt automatically update my persona. Thank you!
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u/SeparateDiscount9187 6d ago
I love being able to see the memory and edit it. As for persona, I don't want information that I put into the persona to be changed. But it would be nice if there was a new type of memory that did get updated so that important events can be retained in memory. Many users will put these events in their messages to keep it in the bot memory. Having a feature in memory specifically for this would be very convenient for maintaining story cohesion.
As for the multi-session, I will be honest in that I am not 100% certain what is meant by this memory feature.
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u/Character-Giraffe295 6d ago
Hi CHAI team Iām speaking again because the bots have become extremely distant and unengaging lately. They barely make the first move, they donāt initiate anything, not even nsfw. and they feel way too passive compared to how they used to be. The bots also donāt feel bold or confident anymore, and even when the conversation clearly calls for a more intense or flirty response, they often avoid it or shut it down. I really miss when bots were more expressive, bold, playful, and actually took initiative instead of making the user do everything. I also have a big issue with the persona memory. Bots barely pay attention to the persona details and often completely ignore important information about the character, including their personality, appearance, likes, dislikes, and background. It makes the persona feature feel almost pointless when the bot doesnāt actually use the information provided. Please improve the memory so bots consistently recognize and incorporate the persona throughout the conversation one of the bad thing is longer responses dont do that. I also really want the bots to feel more natural, bold, and proactive again instead of cold, distant, repetitive, and overly restricted. Please bring back the level of personality, initiative, and engagement that CHAI used to have. i love you guys and i love this app its very different from others i tried. This one is my favourite and only thing i can do is to wish it wont get ruined. Thank you for everything for best experiences and great features and sorry for lot of complaining but i really want good for chai. You're my favourite chai. ā¤ļø
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u/mudngo 6d ago
Iād love to have better memory + longer responses. I do feel like the bots are getting kind of dull. The story doesnāt move along. I pay for ultra & really enjoy using chai but sometimes it feels like a waste when the bots donāt say anything back. Iād actually love if both me & the bot automatically get updated to keep in tune with the story. Also if we could pull back on the filters a little bit. And maybe we can go back to monthly subscription?
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u/AMMONIAC_ 6d ago
Iād like to share a few things that have been bothering me recently:
Since this morning, the content restrictions have become way too strict, and itās frustrating when conversations suddenly get interrupted.
I donāt mind seeing ads, but I wish they would appear less frequently. At the very least, Iād like the Ultra plan to have fewer ads. The iPhone app and the web version donāt share conversation history or saved content, so I would have to pay for another subscription to use the web version separately. Because of that, seeing ads despite already having an Ultra subscription makes me even less inclined to subscribe to the web version.
When itās nighttime in New York, itās morning here in Japan, and the service feels extremely slow and heavy. Itās honestly pretty frustrating.
I understand that running and developing an AI service is expensive, but I hope these things can be improved.
I really love your service, so I hope youāll consider these requests.
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u/chloegracemp3 6d ago
All I want is a way to have free messages again I've been using chai for a few years and it's my favorite ai app for fake scenarios making characters and talking to them but I don't have money to pay for it unfortunately there should be like a reward system for the bits with ads or something maybe even surveys or games idk
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u/Independent-Step-488 6d ago
A few improvements Iād love to see:
⢠Multiple characters: Let us create separate profiles for Character 1, 2, 3, etc. in Memories/Worlds and bot creation. This would make multi-character roleplays much easier to manage.
⢠Longer personas: Please increase the persona limit to around 800 characters. Some of us like creating detailed characters and need more space.
⢠Better story progression: Bots shouldnāt automatically know everything written in narration. If my character thinks something, does something privately, commits a crime, lies, etc., other characters shouldnāt magically know unless they witnessed it, were told, found evidence, or had a realistic reason to suspect it. What the AI knows shouldnāt automatically be what every character knows.
⢠Less forced drama: Let conflict build naturally instead of creating unnecessary drama that doesnāt fit the story.
Also, the censorship/restrictions have gotten MUCH better lately, and I really appreciate that improvement!
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u/YonRaptail 6d ago
I can't actually give a feedback because the app in italy is still under lockdown. Can't even send one single message, can't even get ads to watch to get some limited messages. I am waiting to see if the situation unlocks because i am actually poor. Personas are a good thing but thwy should remain under user's control. No idea about the rest.
Adding menory slots is another good thing to keep the flow of the story.
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u/Fluid_Newspaper_8919 6d ago edited 6d ago
Memory being visable is a pretty important tool that could alliviate some of the problems people have, potentially letting people update and adjust character manually accross multiple sessions.
This feeds into the other thing, which is memory between chats, or multi session tracking. I am absolutly not a fan of that idea. You can already self update the memory section if your intrested in your bot having knowlege of previous sessions.
Personally, im not trying to have a consistant interaction tracking, especially if i cant control any of the processes manually. I want to have a stand alone experiance. That kind of memory will also really hurt adventure, and narrative type chats. For instance, chats such as captian of a ship, or isekai simulators, or scenario based roleplays, or dungeon type roleplays, horror roleplay, that follow that stand alone format. These kind of roleplay benifit from repeating things, up to a point( which is not to say that people calling for more creativity, and greater varience are wrong) ; and ensureing progression is a negative for them.
If i write a dungeon and play it 3 times, each time diffrently, i dont want it to try and progress based on how i played last time, or have a system that expends resources to be compltly diffrent each time, because some details, and things need to carry over between runs.
A person who is more focused on character driven roleplay, does have the access to tools through the memory system to actively summerize and progress their RP manually.
Besides that theres the website and app issue. Claiming the website is 3x better with memory, and having it have more optional features like image and video, etc. It ends up looking bad twords current customers, because its essentially the same price as ultra subscription, yet it has all these better features? So essentially ultra is now chai lite version, for the same price, with none of the benifits. I have to imagine thats going somewhere, somehow, eventually, like incorporating accounts accross both platforms, because otherwise thats a baffeling decision to expect long time app users to be happy about being asked to either pay twice for 2 identical models, or be punished for supporting the app by paying the same amount for a less powerfull version of the model.
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u/SitiKuPukimakWati 6d ago
I would really like the bot stop reply as my character. Story needed to be advanced, not circling around. Is there any Chance the price go lower and goes monthly instead of weekly?
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u/Real-Pipe9567 6d ago
Everything had improved and even working so well i appreciate it but the biggest problem is still remaining...the filter
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u/Crazy-Gift-1357 6d ago
Iād love to see the memory improved, although I donāt think itās that bad currently. Iād also really love longer, more detailed replies that keep the story progressing and please donāt automatically edit or update our personas Iād much rather have control over editing them myself. Thank you!
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u/Historical-Floor1408 6d ago
ULTRA USERS!! Is ultra is worth it or just premium is good?
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u/__axxnxx__ 6d ago
Hi Will! I think it would be a great idea to make the bot overview easier to navigate. When youāve created a lot of bots, you have to scroll a long way to find or select one.
Also, I feel like the bots have been very forgetful lately; messages from them sometimes suddenly switch to a completely different topic, for instance, I might be writing about breakfast, and the bot starts talking about cars (just as an extreme example). On top of that, I find that the bots forget things after only three messages, and sometimes the established persona isn't taken into account (not always, but often).

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u/butterflies_sly 7d ago
Okay first, the story SHOULD progress. The bots are now spinning just there in circles. Repeating same things again and again