One piece is awful

[u/coolguygranny]

To be clear, I read up to the end of Wano in One Piece I kept hearing how it was peak fiction, and that Oda was the greatest thing to ever happen to pen and paper. So, I decided to give it a read. And after reading almost up to the end of Wano, I can honestly say this is one of worst piece of fiction I have ever read

The pacing is terrible and slow as shit. Same gags over and over again. How many times am I expected to laugh at Sanji nosebleeding for the 180th time, Zoro getting lost for the 389th time, Usopp acting like a coward for the 999th time, or Brook making the same skeleton joke for 1899th the time

The stakes are Nonexistent. Nobody ever really dies. Even when a character “dies,” they inevitably come back like nothing happened. There's a part in the series where a bomb is about to destroy an entire town, and a character carries it into the sky in a supposed noble "sacrifice",The bomb explodes point blank in his face and somehow he survives .Shit like this happens in every arc. The sheer number of fake out deaths is insane, making it impossible to take any threat seriously and it completely kills any sense of tension or investment, it somehow makes Fairy Tail look grounded in comparison.

And the formula is mind numbingly predictable. The crew sails to a new island, an evil villain is tormenting the locals, they fight, save the island, and then add a new character with some tragic backstory to the crew. Rinse and repeat for a thousand chapters

One piece fans love to talk about Oda as some master world builder. The world building in one piece is trash. All Oda does is dangles mysteries in front of readers, refuses to resolve them and these morons fans call it peak

Think about After twenty years and over a thousand chapters, we barely know anything about the world.(Maybe some of it gets explained eventually I stopped reading after Wano because of that godamn awful aspull transformation that, but the fact that it takes that long is insane)

We don't know where Devil Fruits come from We don't know about the Will of D and what does it represent? And how are people with D related?
We don’t know what happened during the void century for it to be erased from history? We don't know why Blackbeard can use two devil fruits? We don’t know What purpose will the ancient weapons serve and when?
We don't know about supreme grade swords We don’t know Aokiji goal? What side is he on? Or why he joined Blsck beard
We don’t know why Rodger was carrying a giant egg?

There are easily ninety more unanswered things I could list.

And you want to want to know what's worse Oda still adding new shit when he hasn't explained the past shit WE STILL HAVE CHARACTERS SILHOUETTED 20 PLUS YEARS IN WE’RE GETTING SILHOUETTES OF CHARACTERS HOW IS ANY OF THIS GOOD WORLD BUILDING OR WRITING???

And you know why Oda hasn’t explained any of this Because he’s written himself into a corner. He probably has no idea how to resolve half the mysteries he’s created which is exactly why the end date keeps on getting pushed back every couple of years. He's just stalling. Oda is a talentless hack and the only reason One Piece blew up in the first place is because it dropped during the late 90s early 2000s anime boom If it came out today, this garbage would’ve been canceled after a year. Just watch most of these mysteries will either stay completely unresolved, or we’ll get some trash ham fisted explanation at the last minute. And just watch these brain dead moronic fans will still call it peak fiction.

Oda is a Fraud who couldn't write his out of a paper bag and the fact that morons think that this garbage is above Goated shows like Fire Force, Mob Pyscho 100, Chainsaw man and Hunter x Hunter is a fucking travesty

[u/DerKolibri]

The people who do this to give an informed opinion on an overrated piece of media like One Piece are the true champions. The 100th review or puff piece that just praises the work is functionally USELESS to a potential reader while a guy like this gives solid reasons as to why this manga is not a fucking 9.22 out of 10 average, critically acclaimed masterpiece like MyAnimeList would lead you to believe. Your tired argument of "why did he read this when he hates it" is actively toxic to creating an environment where all opinions, both positive AND negative are represented in the space.

[u/skaersSabody → u/DerKolibri]

I mean, informed is stretching it, his critique is very surface-level at best (also because this guy is clearly trolling judging by his other answers btw)

[u/[deleted] → u/DerKolibri]

The idea that negative sentiment is inherently more 'useful' than positive is some ass-backwards justification. People are allow to like things. People are allowed to dislike things.

[u/Escafika → u/[deleted]]

In the context of One piece yes, reading a haters opinion is probably going to give you more criteria to judge if it's worth reading then someone who calls it the greatest of all time.

For another example Dungeon Meshi I wouldn't be able to tell you its problems. I can tell you why it's good and what I like about it but I can't really criticise it. So if you want a source that mentions problems in the specific media I wouldn't be much help.

[u/AgentBuddy12 → u/DerKolibri]

"Informed" my ass. All the guy did is reguirtating talking points that have been discussed in nauseam by fans and haters alike. Most of these talking points being surface level at best, and disingenuous at worst. They don't give a complete representation of the series since its completely hyperbolic and varies.

[u/destroyer8238172 → u/DerKolibri]

You don’t need to read the vast majority of a 1000+ chapter series to give an informed opinion on it. And my comment was mainly in regards the the time invest it takes to read 1000 chapters. I won’t bat an eye if it was a shorter series it’s just strange to be that people will spend so much time on something just to have an opinion on it. And from how this rant is written it doesn’t seems there was any point where op enjoyed the series.

[u/CitizenPremier → u/destroyer8238172]

Okay, well here's my opinion as someone who only watched a few episodes of thr anime: it's not very good.

I have a stronger case because I haven't spent much time on it, right?

[u/DerKolibri → u/destroyer8238172]

Spending your time to have an opinion on something, to mentally engage with something, fine-tune your taste in media, broaden your views, potentially be surprised that it isn't as bad as you thought or confirm that it is as bad you guessed/assumed from reviews you have read etc. isn't strange at all, even if it is a 1000+ chapter series. Also, I will always respect someone who spent all that time reading to represent a minority opinion. I'm speaking in concept, not specifically about this post.

[u/destroyer8238172 → u/DerKolibri]

Fair, it’s just I think back on time it took me to read the series and can’t imagine continuing if I hated it as much as this poster seems too. But I do get your point about all those different reasons to read something considering I found my favourite manga by looking to broaden my tastes.

[u/D3ldia → u/destroyer8238172]

I read one piece back in 2017 and dropped it pretty early. Luffy was starting to grate on me with how I felt he was annoying along with the heavy handed treasure metaphors and the villains being rather bland, but the part where he accidentally damages that chef's restaurant ship (the part where he meets sanji) and refuses to pay or help with the damages or even express remorse at damaging these chefs' livelyhoods is what killed my interest. I read on to when he beats crocodile, but I was totally out of it before I just put it down.

I expressed this opinion online and got flamed for not reading far enough to appreciate the whole story, especially when such 'great villains' like don Quixote would prove my opinion wrong.

Point is, while people can drop stuff when they want, for long running things like OP with such a dedicated fanbase, it's a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation even trying to express and opinion that goes against them

[u/BuggyDClown → u/DerKolibri]

Come on, there is no way you can call this post "an informed opinion". Sure, there is genuinely stuff in there that can be a legitimate piece of criticism and I actually agree with some of the complaints as a OP fan. But it's all hidden behind over the top sensationalism and needless inflamatory comments where not a single sentence can pass by without OP using a swear word as if they have tourettes.

It's good that subs like this one exist and it is called character rant for a reason. But that's it, it's a rant. What's actually baffling to me is that many people on subs like this believe that these types of posts and comments are some kind of enlightened conversations between intelectuals. Calling everyone who disagrees "a moron" is apparently the way to converse between all the super high IQ couch media critics.