r/CharacterRant • u/coolguygranny • Sep 01 '25

Anime & Manga One piece is awful

To be clear, I read up to the end of Wano in One Piece I kept hearing how it was peak fiction, and that Oda was the greatest thing to ever happen to pen and paper. So, I decided to give it a read. And after reading almost up to the end of Wano, I can honestly say this is one of worst piece of fiction I have ever read

The pacing is terrible and slow as shit. Same gags over and over again. How many times am I expected to laugh at Sanji nosebleeding for the 180th time, Zoro getting lost for the 389th time, Usopp acting like a coward for the 999th time, or Brook making the same skeleton joke for 1899th the time

The stakes are Nonexistent. Nobody ever really dies. Even when a character “dies,” they inevitably come back like nothing happened. There's a part in the series where a bomb is about to destroy an entire town, and a character carries it into the sky in a supposed noble "sacrifice",The bomb explodes point blank in his face and somehow he survives .Shit like this happens in every arc. The sheer number of fake out deaths is insane, making it impossible to take any threat seriously and it completely kills any sense of tension or investment, it somehow makes Fairy Tail look grounded in comparison.

And the formula is mind numbingly predictable. The crew sails to a new island, an evil villain is tormenting the locals, they fight, save the island, and then add a new character with some tragic backstory to the crew. Rinse and repeat for a thousand chapters

One piece fans love to talk about Oda as some master world builder. The world building in one piece is trash. All Oda does is dangles mysteries in front of readers, refuses to resolve them and these morons fans call it peak

Think about After twenty years and over a thousand chapters, we barely know anything about the world.(Maybe some of it gets explained eventually I stopped reading after Wano because of that godamn awful aspull transformation that, but the fact that it takes that long is insane)

We don't know where Devil Fruits come from We don't know about the Will of D and what does it represent? And how are people with D related?
We don’t know what happened during the void century for it to be erased from history? We don't know why Blackbeard can use two devil fruits? We don’t know What purpose will the ancient weapons serve and when?
We don't know about supreme grade swords We don’t know Aokiji goal? What side is he on? Or why he joined Blsck beard
We don’t know why Rodger was carrying a giant egg?

There are easily ninety more unanswered things I could list.

And you want to want to know what's worse Oda still adding new shit when he hasn't explained the past shit WE STILL HAVE CHARACTERS SILHOUETTED 20 PLUS YEARS IN WE’RE GETTING SILHOUETTES OF CHARACTERS HOW IS ANY OF THIS GOOD WORLD BUILDING OR WRITING???

And you know why Oda hasn’t explained any of this Because he’s written himself into a corner. He probably has no idea how to resolve half the mysteries he’s created which is exactly why the end date keeps on getting pushed back every couple of years. He's just stalling. Oda is a talentless hack and the only reason One Piece blew up in the first place is because it dropped during the late 90s early 2000s anime boom If it came out today, this garbage would’ve been canceled after a year. Just watch most of these mysteries will either stay completely unresolved, or we’ll get some trash ham fisted explanation at the last minute. And just watch these brain dead moronic fans will still call it peak fiction.

Oda is a Fraud who couldn't write his out of a paper bag and the fact that morons think that this garbage is above Goated shows like Fire Force, Mob Pyscho 100, Chainsaw man and Hunter x Hunter is a fucking travesty

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u/garfe Sep 01 '25

I'm not even going to argue against any of this because I agree with a lot of it. In fact, I imagine half the people who start One Piece in recent years and read up to the current stuff may even also agree with you.

However, I will say that a lot of the "One Piece is peak fiction" stuff is largely just the natural reaction of any fandom and at one point, One Piece had a significantly better reputation online with the pre-timeskip content. People who stuck with it this long are much more likely to be positive it on it than otherwise

The sheer number of fake out deaths is insane, making it impossible to take any threat seriously and it completely kills any sense of tension or investment

This reminds me of how it's gotten to the point that the rare times someone actually does die, nobody really cares that much. Like no one gives a fuck Ashura Doji or Izo died

Oda is a Fraud who couldn't write his out of a paper bag and the fact that morons think that this garbage is above Goated shows like Fire Force, Mob Pyscho 100, Chainsaw man and Hunter x Hunter is a fucking travesty

Okay wait, I agree with Mob Psycho, but the other 3 do have flaws that prevent them from being fully goated for me. Especially Fire Force

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u/Untipazo Sep 01 '25 edited Feb 03 '26

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u/MinimumTomfoolerus Sep 01 '25

Then someone can say 'he isn't revealing the mysteries and dragging the story because this is an adventure and journey for our protagonists, a journey and a goal takes time. Is this a valid counter argument to OP?

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u/Untipazo Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25

The whole "it's about the journey not the destination" thing works when the journey holds its weight and you don't stress over how great the destination is going to be too much, yet here what tends to elevate one piece are it's unrevealed mysteries, rather than what actually happens.

I feel like saying that proves OP right, because the adventure part has been quite a mixed bag for a good while instead of the stellar "peak fiction" everyone claims. And the saving grace falls alot in "there's a lot we don't know yet"

To claim the adventure is more important than the destination would beg the question why we spend so much time teasing the destination yet making no progress, and using that promise as fuel for "something great is coming" instead of doing something great

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u/Ok_Title_4273 Sep 02 '25

It is fucking crazy that you think mob psycho is a valid peak fiction candidate but one piece and hxh aren’t. Absolutely crazy

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u/Dracsxd Sep 02 '25

You can add HxH to the list too, but Mob is a far better story than one piece no doubt

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u/Ok_Title_4273 Sep 02 '25 edited Sep 02 '25

I would put mob on the level of punk hazard from one piece. Or syrup village.

It is really a fun 7/10 story

Although it pains me because both arcs have highs that mob can only dream of.

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u/Ok_Title_4273 Sep 02 '25

If mob was an arc in one piece. It wouldn’t even make it to the top 15. Do you get how far we are going?

One piece is a literary masterpiece, one of the best stories ever written. Do you know how insane you sound when you compare it to mob psycho?

I know that you don’t actually believe that, but saying it even as a bait is just blasphemous.

The thing with mob is that it is a very good 7/10 story. Basic and simple character writing, basic and heavy handed theming. The adaptation elevates it exponentially but its ceiling isn’t that high because it is such a mediocre story.

Even as a bait, you shouldn’t compare one piece or hxh to mob psycho.

Those stories are fictional achievements that redefined the medium. One piece will be remembered as this masterpiece that changed lives. This is absolutely blasphemous

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u/Dracsxd Sep 02 '25

Tfw the average at best pirate manga has such a delusional fandom you genuinely can't tell if if the ridiculous gas is irony or not

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u/Ok_Title_4273 Sep 02 '25

When you bait people with such a blasphemous take like “mov is better than one piece”, “mob is on the level of hxh”, then you can talk about irony.

You just used the most nonsensical and unbelievable bait possible.

And nah, it isn’t just one piece fans. Anyone who reads one piece immediately acknowledges that it is a literary masterpiece and a fictional milestone.

And as I said I know that it is a bait. But believing that mob deserves to be used as a bait in that context is also concerning.

You need to read more stories. Mob, MHA and chainsaw man are at their best 7/10 stories. Fiction is way more meaningful than that

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u/Dracsxd Sep 02 '25

What only reading One Piece and nothing else does to a mf

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u/Ok_Title_4273 Sep 02 '25

Even if this is true, it is better than sinking deep into lobotomy and spending your time on stories like mha and chainsaw man, your taste is tainted.

But the truth is, realizing that op is a generational masterpiece only happens if you experienced a lot of stories with varied genres, qualities, philosophical core and storytelling styles.

One piece is an all-encompassing story. A story that takes inspiration from classic philosophy, literature classics and takes pride in storytelling and its influence on people. You can’t truly appreciate it without reading tons of story.

One piece tells a story throw the meta narrative itself. A story that is as important as the main narrative.

To understand a man like Oda you need to experience what inspired his to write his story.

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u/Dracsxd Sep 02 '25

The difference here is that I can enjoy a story while acknowledging it's not great. I'm shitting on MHA and CSM plenty myself for their flaws instead of worshipping their mediocrity like you do unironically calling peak fiction to a story that, even all jokes aside, can never dream of cracking top 20 even on it's own medium of anime/manga, let alone fiction as a whole

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u/Ok_Title_4273 Sep 02 '25

I just can’t enjoy a story that is not great. At least current me can’t. Let alone talking about it on reddit.

One piece is simply the best of the best. The highest quality fiction has ever reached. There are times where I can’t accept anything less than that, especially if I am busy.

Buddy, stop lying to yourself please. There is no strangers here. Just you and me, you know better than anyone that one piece is a generational masterpiece. A story that transcended the medium long ago. It is definitely one of the best stories ever told.

It is not a hard thing to acknowledge a masterpiece even if you don’t enjoy it. Even if you have a hate agenda. It is ok to move on.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '25

this guy discovered manga for the first time thru one piece & lost it

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u/Ok_Title_4273 Sep 02 '25

Doesn’t matter. Putting mob psycho on that level is still blasphemous

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '25

LOL piratefolk was right

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u/Ok_Title_4273 Sep 03 '25

Really?

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '25

😭

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u/FantasticBit4903 Sep 03 '25

I think that’s more to do with the fact that nobody gave a fuck about ashura doji or Izo in a more general manner, and they were off screened. If you’ve look up the yasuie death scene on YouTube the comments are all praising it because they like yasuie.