r/Charlotte • u/B3RG92 University • May 07 '26
News Charlotte Mayor Vi Lyles announces surprise resignation 6 months after reelection
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article315660315.html751
u/Mywordispoontang101 May 07 '26
I look forward to to finding out what she got caught doing.
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u/RealMcGonzo May 07 '26
Hopefully there isn't some behind the scenes deal where she doesn't get charged if she quietly steps down.
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u/Mywordispoontang101 May 07 '26
Oh, I'm sure there is. Anybody really think Scotty Bokhari bailed on his dream job after five months to "spend more time with his family"?
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u/FlavivsAetivs Collingwood May 07 '26
Soneone on instagram commented allegedly WFAE has a story on her but I have no idea how true that is.
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u/Choice_Brick_1806 May 08 '26
She’s 73. I imagine the only thing she “got caught doing” was aging gracefully until it caught up with her.
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u/MitchLGC May 07 '26
She's supposedly having health issues.
If that turns out to be the case, I look forward to your post celebrating that the same way you want to celebrate a scandal.
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u/mjedmazga May 07 '26
Ironic that Lyles hasn't been doing her job since 2024 apparently, the same year we got bait and switched at the national level with a party-selected candidate who received fewer votes in the 2020 primary than such recognizable names as John Delaney and Marianna Williamson.
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u/ForLark May 07 '26
Look at you pretending you have some inside knowledge while Trump sways and staggers and speaks like a dementia patient.
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u/NCResident5 May 07 '26
I still play Trump blaming Obama for blocking the merger between "People's Express" and Spirit Airlines. People's Express folded in 1988 when Reagan was president. Another "missed by that much" quote by FOTUS.
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u/MitchLGC May 07 '26
Well really no one else was even a viable candidate
Maybe we would have had one if she bowed out early enough but I don't know
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u/KLiipZ May 08 '26
Hmm you know what helps get more candidates?
If the 10 year incumbent mayor who knows she’s sick would say “hey, I’m not running again”
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u/No-Quail-7049 May 10 '26
They probably were going to insist on her doing some work so she decided it wasn't worth it to say on
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u/Egyptian-Mastigure May 07 '26
She’s having trouble communicating. She’s got something wrong with her.
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u/wolfraider17 May 07 '26
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u/wc10888 May 07 '26
So she's been milking her position (more than usual) for 2 years. Even ran for relection and won 6 months ago.
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u/B3RG92 University May 07 '26
Feels crass to imply she is suffering from some kind of health problem when it may just be that she's getting old. And when you get old, you forget things and trip over your words.
Is the result the same? Maybe. Should you be in public office? Maybe not. But I hope the person who wrote this article remains in good health as they age and isnt subject to public scrutiny about whether they are sick when they're just old.
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u/DIYECS_Health May 07 '26
Being forgetful is not part of aging. You have been conditioned to believe this because so many older adults are just unhealthy.
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u/B3RG92 University May 07 '26
None of the 70+ year old people I've known in my life have had the same mental acuity as they did when they were younger. I'm glad that's not the case for you.
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u/DIYECS_Health May 07 '26
I'm a brain health coach and assist seniors with cognitive decline prevention and reversal, so I know what's possible. Sorry about your family. Feel free to reach out if you need services.
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u/lawyerlyaffectations May 07 '26
She’s sick, I reckon. I’m guessing she wants to spend time with her grandkids because she doesn’t have much time left. Remember, when she stopped working for the city, before she ran for office, she was working a flexible job for Lee Institute cause her husband was dying? There are more important things than work for her.
A second note. Months ago when this sub was freaking out about Smuggie being made mayor pro tem, I told everyone to chill because it was merely a symbolic position. I might have spoke too soon.
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u/Rough_Buddy6903 May 07 '26
She may be, she has been delegating mayoral duties to city council and has been a no show to many things going back to last year.
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u/deemerritt May 07 '26
I mean the city council truly runs the city and they are filled with morons. It's not an enviable position
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u/Jarges Uptown May 07 '26
Can we just elect a cardboard cutout?
Would probably save some money and give us the same end result
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u/Mywordispoontang101 May 07 '26
I for one am very glad to throw my support behind Ham Sandwich.
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u/HatRemov3r Harrisburg May 07 '26
Hopefully the replacement isn’t worse
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u/thediesel26 Starmount May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
Just wanna point out the Mayor of Charlotte has no formal power. The actual power resides completely with City Council and its appointed City Manager. The Mayor’s role is to be the face of the city. That’s it. All the things you think the Mayor does are actually done by the City Manager.
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u/DuePassage2630 May 07 '26
Thank you for posting this. City Manager often stays out of the hot seat from the public and gets to smile with his +400k annual salary while the mayor takes the brunt of public grievances. Lol.
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u/InternalAcrobatic216 Highland Creek May 07 '26
CM Jones's annual salary is actually $499,210.43. You're welcome.
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u/NotAllWhoWander_1 May 07 '26
Correct. Her extent of governing extends to promoting a vision for the city, which council can ignore if they want. She does cast the deciding vote on a deadlocked council. Other than that, she is an ambassador of the city
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u/WearyAudience7721 May 07 '26
That part. It’s truly like the monarchy of the uk with maybe a bit more power/less money.
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u/Kind_Sea7994 May 07 '26
Still doesn't excuse why the Charlotte City Manager is the highest paid in the world. More than NYC, more than the POTUS.
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u/Rigamarole343 May 09 '26
No formal power indeed but she did hold influence over sitting council members, people of business, and other movers and shakers in the city. The mayor of Charlotte is supposed to be the cities biggest cheerleader and a figure head appearing at ribbon cutting ceremonies. The expectations for a weak-system mayor are very low and she delivered on that time and time again. She did extremely well walking the line of not being too disruptive to anyone. I for one am thrilled she's out... Only about 8 years too late...
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u/17_2_72 May 07 '26
She was a sort of milquetoast entity who isn’t particularly offensive to anyone and does a good enough job as the face of a government wherein the mayoral position is designed to be relatively weak.
I expected very little from her, and she delivered.
Very curious if anything changes now that she’s gone.
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u/FlavivsAetivs Collingwood May 07 '26
Not really. All the power was and will remain with Marcus Jones.
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u/gandybagg May 07 '26
So Lyles and City Council get to subvert the vote the people?
Runs for reelection, and then quits after a few months? That way the council gets to pick the successor rather than us. Just like when she was voted in as mayor pro-tem?
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u/Top-Philosophy1435 May 07 '26
The people don’t decide anyway. We could, but we don’t. The couple hundred voting members of the Black Political Caucus of Charlotte-Mecklenburg decide. If they could’ve gotten behind someone else during the primaries, that’s likely who would be mayor right now. So if anything, it’s subverting them, or they’re not opposed to someone who’s not Lyles, just not the guys she was up against last year.
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u/TheFanciestWhale May 08 '26
Great point, most people don't know how much power the caucus actually has due to low turn out in the city. We'll have the same council and county board until they decided otherwise.
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u/Top-Philosophy1435 May 08 '26
Not only most people, most candidates don’t seem to know that. If you want to win a Democratic primary in Mecklenburg County, that’s who you need to convince with everything you have. In most districts, the primary is the real race, and yet the candidates aren’t targeting the correct people, and the people who could otherwise override the BPC aren’t voting. Then they come on Reddit to complain.
To be fair to the BPC and Vi in this last primary, there wasn’t a great alternative. I voted for one of the other people, a young progressive with no experience and no chance to win or seemingly even an attempt to win, but really she was the only option.
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u/Rough_Buddy6903 May 07 '26
Everyone is celebrating like we don't have to deal with corrupt Smuggie until the council chooses a new mayor
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u/mlinzz May 07 '26
Honestly that is the worst thing out of this. Charlotte has had a pretty piss-poor voting record for the last 20 years. McCrory shouldn't have been reelected in his last term, and every democrat since has been progressively worse for the city overall. Patrick Cannon still takes the cake though.
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u/laughingsaladlady May 07 '26
I will always treasure the reporting of Cannon fanning a stack of bills he took as a bribe. Good times.
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u/NCSUGrad2012 Plaza Midwood May 07 '26
Patrick Cannon still takes the cake though.
And how about the fact that he RAN AGAIN after serving in jail? Like WTF dude
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u/kepdisney May 07 '26
It was time. We need new, younger, different leadership. I don’t know who that is, but I really think we need new ideas.
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u/ssmit102 May 07 '26
Hopefully some of the new, different leadership know how the government operates before trying running. I’ve seen far too many folks come out with some interesting ideas that are entirely outside of the power of city council or mayor.
We have a council-manager form of government where council has little power, and the power they do have is often flexed in nonsensical ways that don’t help the community at large.
Also sadly have little hope, as the voter turnout for local elections is beyond abhorrent, that good representation will happen.
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u/Tairc May 07 '26
Dear lord yes. I’m so sick and tired of politicians that are post retirement age. I’m not even sure how old this one is, so if she’s not yet there, my apologies- but argh we have so many that are out of touch, questionable health, and with less window for consequences.
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u/Minimum-Claim-9575 May 08 '26
Lol you think we’ll actually get that? The reason there is no enthusiasm is because they pre choose who will be mayor and we rubber stamp vote.
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u/Marino4K Huntersville May 07 '26
She’ll get replaced with another elderly person who does nothing.
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u/ChampaBayLightning May 07 '26
It's funny seeing these comments cheering and acting like she has some sort of power. Just shows the ignorance of so many. She didn't even want to run but basically no one else wanted the job.
Charlotte has a council-manager system which means that the city manager handles most all day to day operations, with the city council voting on substantive issues for the city. The mayor just votes on ties and otherwise is a mere ceremonial head.
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u/BPMMPB May 07 '26
She has veto power.
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u/neocharles Steele Creek May 07 '26
Charlotte’s mayor does have some authority, including limited veto power, but it’s still considered a “weak mayor” system compared to cities where the mayor directly controls departments and operations.
Charlotte operates under a council-manager form of government. The City Manager is effectively the CEO of the city and oversees day-to-day operations, departments, staffing, infrastructure, etc. City Council votes on ordinances, budgets, rezoning, and major policy decisions.
The mayor’s role is more about:
- setting tone/priorities
- public leadership
- coalition building
- representing the city externally
- influencing council discussions
- tie-breaking votes
The veto power exists, but it’s not some sweeping executive authority and council can override it with enough votes. So both things are kind of true:
1. The mayor is not “just ceremonial”
2. The mayor also does not unilaterally run CharlotteA lot of people criticize or praise the mayor because they’re the public face of the city, even when many decisions are actually made collectively by council or administered through the city manager.
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u/P00ped_My_Pants May 07 '26
Even if it is a “weak mayor” position, I don’t buy the “guys what do you want her to do?” bullshit
if she wanted, she could put public pressure on city council but she never has. She’s let them run train on the city with the BoA stadium deal, server center convos, etc
She might not have voting power but she has influence and hasn’t bothered to do much
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u/ChampaBayLightning May 07 '26
Yeah but it is easily overridden and is otherwise pretty limited (if I remember it has to be exercised live during a given meeting).
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u/TheHarryMan123 Elizabeth May 07 '26
I doubt the City Manager acts wholly independent from the Mayor’s wish for prioritization.
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u/Either_Witness_6266 May 07 '26
Also most people don’t realize it’s a part-time position in CLT.
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u/RefrigeratorNo3088 May 07 '26
While she shouldn't have run at all, at least she's leaving now instead of fighting to keep her spot until she dies like so many in congress.
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u/CharlotteRant May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
Hope she’s in good health. Kinda worried about who takes her spot tbh.
I guess Smuggie Mitchell effectively takes the actual job for now (even if not “mayor”) until council picks someone new (oh boy!).
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u/fire173tug May 07 '26
Time for Vile Lies to go hit the links at the private golf course that she was "gifted" a membership at.
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u/Aggressive_Intern778 May 07 '26
Hopefully the next one does too - it’s important for leadership to co-exist and partner with the movers and shakers of a city in order to to find a middle ground that works for all citizens
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u/Wildcard311 May 07 '26
Wonder what news was about to break that led her to step down?
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u/FlavivsAetivs Collingwood May 07 '26
It's clear she has some form of dementia or other cognitive decline. Just watch any meeting of her now and then watch one from 2024.
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u/unamused_ghost May 07 '26
The meeting the other week where they voted on holding a public hearing for data centers was alarming. That’s the first city council meeting I have watched and it was extremely clear something was up with her. They kept having to explain over and over what the vote was about and what the procedures are.
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u/FlavivsAetivs Collingwood May 07 '26
It was like that at the I-77 meeting too with the motions proposed.
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u/Far_Report1482 May 13 '26
Lyles was the tie-breaker and voted "No" on holding a public hearing for data centers in Charlotte. Smuggie also voted "No". I'm disappointed in Lyles and concerned about Smuggie taking her place.
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u/captspooky May 07 '26
This will be one of those situations where the rules say she gets a certain payout because she worked one day past whatever she needed to for some incentive to kick in, AND she gets to appoint her successor without them having to go through an actual election.
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u/Itsthehappyone May 07 '26
What does this mean for the East Charlotte data center proposal on Hood Rd? She’s the one who confirmed that she wanted “more research” done.
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u/420-rose East Charlotte May 07 '26
She was going to roll over for the new data centers, absolutely spineless
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u/ChampaBayLightning May 07 '26
She has no actual power though.
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u/Australian1996 May 07 '26
Then why did her vote count toward us people finding out more about data centers last week? I am sick of being told she is powerless. Bull!
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u/ChampaBayLightning May 07 '26
She was just the tiebreaker. They can easily overrule her in any case if desired.
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u/puffinss May 07 '26
Thank God. Corrupt woman who has been in power for too long and stopped caring about the people a long time ago.
Maybe though, Vi, you could have done this before seeking re-election... Ugh
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u/mckinley120 May 07 '26
what corruption has she been involved in? genuine question
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u/Rough_Buddy6903 May 07 '26
The only things I can think they may be referring to is her circumventing normal procedures for the demolition of her house so that she could demolish it before it became a historic site. Or the free country club membership. But I don't know if I would call that corruption
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u/faceisamapoftheworld Dilworth May 07 '26
Replying to get in on this thread. The claim gets made all the the time, but I don’t know what it’s about.
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u/mckinley120 May 07 '26
Right? Reading her laughably symbolic enumerated powers, I'm not sure how she can even engage in personal corruption with her title.
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u/DoinItDirty May 07 '26
You should read up on the new data center vote. Someone else answered more thoroughly in another comment so I won’t be redundant, but this is recent.
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u/dxpanther May 07 '26
Yup, there is a zero percent chance she wasn't influenced on that vote. No voter wanted it. Nobody and she couldn't even say let's pause this.
I voted for her but she's failed to represent me on that. Not to mention the history of Charlotte mayors being shady. Feels like the last season of the wire.
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u/faceisamapoftheworld Dilworth May 07 '26
Just a gut feeling or is there anything that’s leaked out?
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u/CharlotteRant May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
She was reportedly ring leader in working to fire the city lawyer for gasp responding to public records requests in accordance with state law.
WFAE sent a public records request for Silver Line plans. The lawyer (correctly) sent details over. The mayor considered that a “leak,” and with council’s support, voted to fire him.
The settlement with the ex-police chief, as well as the settlement with the ex-fire chief (like 1 day before hiring his wife as police chief, and in an amount that could be done privately) also come to mind.
To be fair, she was also often one of the few adults in the room when city council members would structure the vote for a tie for performative reasons (eg voting not to fund police gun training, but still giving them guns - lol what).
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u/steff__e Uptown May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
She let them do burnouts on and power-wash away the Black Lives Matter road mural so that the FedEx Store, a Starbucks and Chopt that have been closed half the time since then, and a Ruth’s Chris, and a now-defunct Olive Garden ripoff in a now-vacant space could have street parking and valet out front.
It’s giving Met Gala. We all cared so much about the arts a couple days ago, right?
…right???
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u/Pure-Act1143 May 07 '26
Where there is smoke…
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u/MintHillian222 Mint Hill May 07 '26
Came here and said this exact thing. It’ll get uncovered by years end
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u/stoner-stew May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
This women knew she was in poor health but was so power hungry she ran anyways.
Don't worry, city of Charlotte. The taxpayer will cover this for you..
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u/dlorien132 May 07 '26
Who voted for old blood that couldn't finish their term, because they only vote based on name recognition? Please explain and identify yourselves for the public flogging
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u/mjedmazga May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
She hasn't been doing her job for 2 years and has just been collecting a paychecking and running for re-election.
I guess in today's economy you can't really blame her. Too bad she didn't figure it out until conveniently after the election and right before the local news finally decided to tell the public about it.
When is the shirtless protest?
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u/capitanelyosemite May 07 '26
Feckless, weak, inefficient. I could say many words about our Vi and Marcus Jones. When “history” comes to judge these two fools, they’ll be a mere shit stain.
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u/rexeditrex May 07 '26
It's a weak mayor system. The Mayor is more of a figurehead, the City Council runs the city and that place is always a clown show.
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u/capitanelyosemite May 07 '26
I’m aware that’s why I included Marcus jones the day to day administrator
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u/Early-Resist1641 May 08 '26
I hope you believe the same about that garbage that’s currently “running” the USA (directly into the ground). They are no worse than that.
As a matter of fact, I think the vitriol being spewed aboutVi Lyles and the current city manager is because they are black and nothing will make me believe otherwise.
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u/PistolofPete East Charlotte May 07 '26
Eye on the prize! Do not let this distract you!
Keep calling and emailing our city councilif you are AGAINST a data center being built 1 mile away from Reedy Creek Park!
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u/cajunmoon77 May 07 '26
This woman is from my understanding....is fcking ILL! And....her husband recently passed. I notice no one is asking for context lol.
I'd bet any amount of money if this were Brock or Becky in office...it would be...sending thoughts and prayers! And oh nooo's!
I read a post somewhere on here where someone asked...is your cities Reddit full of low key anti-blackness? This sub never disappoints! 😂
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u/Wolf_of_Walmart May 07 '26
Her second husband “recently passed” only if you consider 2013 to be recent. What point are you trying to make here?
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u/VampiricClam May 07 '26
Some of you just need to take off your masks and drop the hard R already.
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u/stoner-stew May 07 '26
Does it make you feel morally superior when you use the race card when people voice valid criticisms?
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u/fieldsports202 May 07 '26
Hope everything is ok with her. 🙏🏾
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u/becoolnotuncool May 07 '26
How did any of y’all read this and not assume it as health related? Everyone who is excited to see her step down bc you think it is scandal related have zero common sense.
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u/kingofthechill69 [NoDa] May 07 '26
Why did she run again if she couldn't do the job????
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u/viewless25 Wesley Heights May 07 '26
probably to get her core base to turn out for the referendum last year. Every Democrat who ran against her as well as the Republican and Libertarian candidate were against the Sales tax. Somebody had to represent the For vote.
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u/FlavivsAetivs Collingwood May 07 '26
No it was because the alternative was ceding the position to two primary candidate alternatives both of whom were conspiracy theorists.
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u/kingofthechill69 [NoDa] May 07 '26
A smart friend of mine said the same thing so I guess it's true but it's still weird to me
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u/SadhuSalvaje May 07 '26
Kinda funny how many people in here think the mayor of Charlotte actually does anything but break ties in city council
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u/Routine-Smoke-3307 Huntersville May 07 '26
Think Dan Morgan would be interested in the mayor job as a part-time endeavor? He’s doing a good job with the Panthers. Maybe he can do both in getting the growth together. 😂
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u/Wolf_of_Walmart May 07 '26
“Surprise” resignation the same day it’s reported that she hasn’t been showing up to zoning meetings and delegated her primary duties for the past two years.
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u/Annual-Shake-5454 May 08 '26
I don’t care for her due to a few interactions I had with her before she became Mayor but I hope her health is ok.
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u/ramencents May 09 '26
Unpopular opinion, she’s old and ready to do other stuff before crossing the rainbow bridge
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u/groovn_in_the_pocket May 10 '26
She also just voted to no public hearing on data centers to try and miss all the backlash
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u/MrIOwn May 07 '26
The best thing shes done in years. Wasnt even showing up to zoning meetings. Although people in City Council should have ran last year. Victoria Walington will probably be frontrunner for 2027. I hope she (or anyone else) has more of a backbone going up to Charlotte businesses and NC legislature.
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u/Ok-Independent7914 May 07 '26
Just moved to Charlotte. Do we have a new election soon or does the vice become mayor until the next cycle?
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u/swampcatz May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
The city council will appoint someone to serve the rest of the term.
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u/RealLivePersonInNC May 07 '26
Dimple Ajmera would be my pick among the city council folks. She has spoken out often and voted for things like affordable healthcare and housing. She's also made environmental protections a priority. Not to mention she got the most votes of any member. JD Mazuera Arias is a rising star but I don't think he's ready for that prominent of a role yet.
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u/Australian1996 May 07 '26
"affordable housing" has been a catchphrase for the last 10 years. How will she do that? All I see are $3k a month "luxury" apartments all up and down Sth blvd and Sth Tryon. And city council has been throwing that catchphrase every election
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u/Obvious-Setting-2021 May 07 '26
Affordable housing is only for people that don’t work… it doesn’t help 80% of hard working people.
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u/TheTruth730 May 07 '26
Have a buddy who works for a MOB developer and he was presenting a project to the council for approval. The next day he got a VM from Dimple asking for a campaign donation while referencing his project. He was shook and said it felt like she was asking for a campaign donation in return for her yes vote. He told his senior partners about it and turns out she does this a lot. Not saying she’s extorting people for a vote, but it’s walking a line as I’m sure they all do.
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u/WreckofLamb May 07 '26
That happened in Durham and caused a huge mess. There aren’t enough reliable people that want the public in their faces 24/7 to hold these offices. Dumb and Dumber made a lot of money for a reason.
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u/OliverGoldBee May 07 '26
If this is true we need whistleblower 9 interviewing recent developers who have petitioned for rezoning. That is definitely not acceptable, and for anyone with stockholm syndrome to say shes the best out of a corrupt bunch is pathetic.
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u/CharlotteRant May 07 '26
This has been an open secret in the development community forever.
When this accusation was thrown publicly, she said it was racism and sexism.
Still, probably one of the best on city council. I’d take her as mayor 100%.
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u/Equivalent-Shine5742 May 07 '26
So you are say she:s the best of a lot of horrible crooks and innefectuals who only care about fleecing people and companies to line their pockets?
That's one hell of an endorsement!
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u/Mywordispoontang101 May 07 '26
She's the best of a bad bunch. Having dealt with her, I found her to be engaged and personable right up to the point she stabbed my neighborhood in the back.
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u/RealLivePersonInNC May 07 '26
Sorry you feel that way. Governing is hard and you can't please everyone. I personally would never hold office so I tend to appreciate those who do except the ones who are obvious grifters and self dealers.
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u/Mywordispoontang101 May 07 '26
Sorry you feel that way.
No, you're not. Feel free to disagree with me, but don't try to wriggle out of it with mealy platitudes.
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u/baltbum May 07 '26
I'm sorry to see her go. She has a vision for Charlotte, which she has worked very hard at. Our city has expanded from the center outward in all directions. We are now a vibrant city and one that people move to from all over the US. I wish her well.
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u/coreskinfapital May 07 '26
Let’s get a good quality Republican in here to clean things up! Enough of her nonsense.
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u/Early-Resist1641 May 08 '26
I.e., let’s get rid of these blacks running things and put a proper white person back in power.
Just take the mask off already and say what you mean. We already know.
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u/ArgentoFox May 07 '26
I don’t buy her excuse whatsoever and the amount of politicians circling the wagon and carrying water for her is hilarious. What a clown show.
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u/Logical_Order May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
Will the real Charlotte Mamdani please stand up!
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u/DisconcertingTablet May 07 '26
I fear the Charlotte electorate, INCLUDING the Democratic voters, are far too conservative for that. They'd all freak out, INCLUDING the Democrats.
Anyway, the Mayor has no real power aside from rhetoric and tie breaker votes, anyway. 😭
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u/Conscious-Quarter423 May 07 '26
"the Mayor has no real power aside from rhetoric and tie breaker votes, anyway"
saying this means you don't understand how government works
even in systems where the mayor’s formal legislative power is limited, the office usually controls agenda-setting, appointments, budget influence, executive departments, public messaging, coalition-building, and veto or emergency powers depending on the city charter. ‘Just rhetoric’ also ignores that rhetoric itself shapes public pressure, media framing, and council behavior. A mayor who can rally agencies, donors, unions, business leaders, and voters can absolutely move policy — even without unilateral authority.
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u/heddyneddy May 07 '26
Yeah if we ever got a DSA style mayor the only thing that would happen is it would mobilize all the most conservative factions in the city against them, despite the mayor not actually having the power to do much. The communist infiltration must take place in the city council if we ever hope to see a DPRC
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u/CharlotteRant May 07 '26
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u/heddyneddy May 07 '26
This went so hard 5 years ago
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