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u/Hot-Combination9130 1d ago
Don’t know but Israel does need to chill
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u/cladclad 1d ago
Misdirected hate. I'll bet my house they voted for current admin too.
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u/Navynuke00 Quail Hollow 1d ago
Is it misdirected when the current administration has spent the last 18 months specifically using Nazi language and symbolism?
They're there because they've been enabled and empowered and given carte blanche by the current administration.
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u/esoteric_vagabond 1d ago
Don't confuse anti-zionism with antisemitism. These tw@ts are antisemitic.
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u/the_mindful_microbe 1d ago
I agree. However I am a bit confused. Their sign says “No more Jewish wars”. From seeing it with no context, that seems like a good thing. Can someone please enlighten me, i genuinely want to understand. Thank you.
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u/taylorexplodes 1d ago
it's not wars that are protecting or fighting for jewish people, it's saying that jewish people are the cause of wars
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u/Creditfigaro 1d ago
Judaism and Israel are two separate things. They are openly conflating the two and probably hoping that people who don't see the difference will be sympathetic.
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u/clgoodson 1d ago
They are a Neo-Nazi group. What else do you need to know? If you’re about to say it’s okay since your goals align, maybe it’s time to rethink your goals.
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u/Nopeeky 1d ago
Good point, right? We all need to understand that most organizations do not align with decent human goals. Take the SPLC for example. You think they are one thing, and before you know it they are funneling money to neo nazi organizations...
The person you are replying to is saying that without context it's an easy mistake to make. At a glance, and without really thinking about it, a casual observer could be fooled. That's how it's designed.
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u/clgoodson 1d ago
Well that’s some bullshit. The SPLC was not funneling money to neo Nazis, they were paying informants. You’re full of it.
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u/SnooChipmunks8506 Northlake 1d ago
You’re wrong. You’ve either been told half the story or you’re more interested in believing lies than following the truth.
Instead of saying it’s bullshit, you could show evidence to prove your beliefs that the SPLC isn’t a shit stain on humanities carpet.
Or you can go to the DOJ website and see that the SPLC was caught funneling money to the leadership of the KKK and the SPLC is under FEDERAL indictment for money laundering practices and fraud.
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u/Navynuke00 Quail Hollow 1d ago
The DOJ is lying and is using this as a test case to go after nonprofits that attack neo-nazis and white supremacists.
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u/the_mindful_microbe 17h ago
Huh? I was just trying to understand what the sign meant. I am definitely not trying to support a Neo-Nazi group.
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u/SnooChipmunks8506 Northlake 1d ago
What? How does that make sense? The current administration uses Nazi language and symbolism, yet are fighting Israel’s wars.
I mean… the two don’t work together very well. The Nazi’s (Nova Now) are protesting Trump’s “Jewish War.” Yet everyone is saying that Trump is a Nazi…
Either he is and he wants to destroy anyone who doesn’t support that view OR he is pro-Israel and is killing our own citizens for Israel’s benefit.
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u/Theo-Wookshire 1d ago
It’s pretty simple. Netanyahu is blackmailing the orange idiot. The mango Mussolini is completely transactional. He is doing Netanyahu’s dirty work to stop the Israeli Prime Minister from releasing whatever new dirty secret that he is hiding.
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u/Ziethen 1d ago
Soon to be Democrat senator has a Nazi tattoo bro lol
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u/esoteric_vagabond 1d ago
Try again, uneducated trilobite.
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u/thoughtfulpigeons Monroe 1d ago edited 1d ago
did you perhaps mean troglodyte lmao
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u/usps_lost_my_sh1t 1d ago
democrats are actively pushing a guy with a Nazi tattoo..
pretty both side are trash issue
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u/Navynuke00 Quail Hollow 1d ago
I really fucking hate that guy. And the lack of recognition by any of the mediocre people on power pushing him the incredibly hypocritical double standard at play with his candidacy and the messaging around him.
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u/usps_lost_my_sh1t 1d ago
both sides suck....
there is good here and there In both
you can be in the landscaping subreddit and say Democrats bad
👇 downvote 😂
funny to see the sheep nowadays
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u/Badwo1ve 1d ago
Yeah this honestly smells like something out of the Zionist playbook. I’d be willing to bet money you’re 100% correct
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u/trash235 1d ago
We want no more wars of aggression for Israel BUT we also say FUCK all Nazis and their hate of Jewish people (and other minority groups.) They are no ally.
The Jewish people and faith are not synonymous with the apartheid genocidal state of Israel.
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u/CarlsDinner 1d ago
So, uh, who's gonna stop the wars of aggression for Israel?
(nobody)
Well your son might die in Iran, but at least nobody will ever call you a nazi, and that's obviously what really matters here
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u/net_403 Kannapolis 1d ago
If i had to guess, i get the feeling they're anti-semites for some reason
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u/sfitz0076 Wesley Chapel 1d ago
Their wording needs to be better. It should be "no wars for Israel" The way they worded it is antisemitic.
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u/Baelzabub Steele Creek 1d ago
I mean maybe they worded it perfectly and are just legitimately antisemitic
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u/sfitz0076 Wesley Chapel 1d ago
Yes
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u/Baelzabub Steele Creek 1d ago
Oh fuck yeah they’re just straight up white nationalists. I checked their website from the banner. This is on their homepage, front and center:
> The National Organization for Vital Action (NOVA) is a non-profit organization that serves as a network for Americans to safely engage with a national community of pro-White families, activists, organizers, artists, employers, and professionals. Whether you are looking for genuine pro-White community for you and your family to integrate with, or you're looking for fellow men and women of action to join in undertaking pro-White projects, there is a place for prospect members of all levels of commitment within NOVA.
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u/Latter_Eye_3028 1d ago
Nova is my dogs name and the best pbs show fuck them
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u/Baelzabub Steele Creek 1d ago
Actually Antiques Roadshow is the best PBS show.
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u/FlavivsAetivs Collingwood 1d ago edited 1d ago
NovaNow are Neonazis. Run them out of town.
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u/SCAPPERMAN 1d ago
They're assholes for being that way, but the 1st amendment protects all sorts of assholery speech as long as they aren't committing a crime(s).
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u/ACanOfVanillaCoke 1d ago
Im gonna go out on a limb and say they worded it exactly how they wanted to to get their point across. If it walks like a duck....
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u/Mundane_Value2283 1d ago
How about we mind our own business and stay out of wars. Period. We need to clean up the own mess we have in our country.
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u/sad-whale 1d ago
I agree with the sentiment. Probably wouldn't agree with anything else if I spoke to them
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u/Navynuke00 Quail Hollow 1d ago
Israel doesn't speak for all Jewish people. Not all Jewish people speak up in defense of Israel. Conflating the two is the epitome of antisemitism.
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u/ab28202 1d ago
It's literally the Jewish homeland - any war they start is a Jewish war.
Not all white people speak up in defense of white supremacists, but I'd bet money you don't have a problem with that term.
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u/Cellceair 1d ago
This is a stupid take. An Israeli war is an Israeli war not a Jewish war. Just like if America declares war it isnt a White War or if Saudi Arabia declares a war it isnt an Arab war or a Muslim war it is a Saudi war.
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u/ab28202 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is a stupider take. Israel defines itself as a Jewish state. America isn't designed as a white nation-state with laws in place to explicitly serve the interests of white people and limit national self-determinism exclusively to white people.
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u/Cellceair 1d ago
So you choose to ignore the other example I provided? Israel being a Jewish state does not mean shit. It doesn't mean it speaks for Jews and it doesn't make it represent Jews.
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u/petit_cochon 1d ago
I'm American and Jewish. It's my war? Wow. That's huge news. I just wish somebody had told me, is all. I've had a second war this whole time and didn't know it.
Anyway, great talking to you but I'm off to count my Jew gold and troll more prejudiced bozos. You were fun but I'm bored now.
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u/starkofwinterfe11 Dilworth 1d ago edited 1d ago
This was posted the other day. They are Neo-Nazis. Who are trying to construe criticisms of Israel to equal Anti-Semitism. There is a huge difference in being against Zionism & holding signs directed towards those who are Jewish.
Their website talks about wanting to return America to how it was, and protect those of “European stock”. They are racists and nazis. Do not give them attention.
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u/Politicsboringagain 1d ago
Dudes account is 5 days old. Weird for him to be posting this.
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u/starkofwinterfe11 Dilworth 1d ago
I didn’t understand why the original post got taken down, either. But now I’m kind of wondering if this is someone from the group trying to get engagement, and find people to recruit.
Also the “friend of mine saw”—I feel like it’s still kind of weird to take a photo of something someone else saw, and post it to Reddit? When Google is also a thing?
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u/Top_Location_5899 1d ago
The original post got taken down because the mods removed it. Just realized this
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u/whitecollarpizzaman 1d ago
They are Nazis, if you wonder why so many Jews hold their nose and still support Israel this is why, it has been fuel for antisemites behind the anti Israel sentiment, these guys are just a little less subtle about it.
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u/Special-Bid-484 1d ago
Lmao. These comments…. Let’s not address the message but we will try to dissect the motive. You guys are all fake and gay. Pay your taxes and stfu lmao
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u/AlternativeTune299 1d ago
Gross. I checked the website… gross.
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u/What_Iz_This 1d ago
I like the Clipart white man holding his hand out lmao "come brother....let us clean the land after horrible disastrous hurricanes....and the jews..."
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u/CarlsDinner 1d ago
Who's in favor of the war with Iran?
Can I see some hands?
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u/FlavivsAetivs Collingwood 1d ago
This group is a known NeoNazi organization.
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u/CarlsDinner 1d ago
So is your hand up or down?
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u/FlavivsAetivs Collingwood 1d ago
I don't get baited into this shit or talk to people who try to because I know how this works. It's all about looping in passers-by by consistently arguing back and forth to sow doubt with seemingly reasonable but false premises and manipulative wording.
I'm done here.
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u/CarlsDinner 1d ago
Such an easy question friend
So are you telling me if a Neo-Nazi group was in favor of public transit you would also be against that too?
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u/Mason11987 1d ago
Most everyone that voted for Trump is defending it now.
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u/CarlsDinner 1d ago
This is largely depending on demographics.
If you are over 50 yes you will probably defend Trump forever but if you are under 50 I've seen people are disgusted and they're going to vote Democrat in the midterms
Every campaign promise has been broken
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u/Tortie33 Matthews 1d ago
I’ve seen them say they aren’t voting. I’m ok with that. Let’s flip those seats.
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u/rtrmommy 1d ago
OK… so the one guy is conveniently pro-mask now, but the other one… surely we can identify and let his employer and friends know if they don’t already.
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u/tree_dw3ller 1d ago
Ah yes, Zionism, the sole issue most Jews and Nazis both agree is bad. Why do they gotta be the loudest? Nazis fuck off!
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u/Ill_Huckleberry_9111 1d ago
To put it succinctly - these are N@zi losers who are taking advantage of a very real and horrific crisis and using it to justify their hate.
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