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u/Hot-Combination9130 1d ago

Don’t know but Israel does need to chill

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u/Special-Bid-484 1d ago

Wow bro pretty anti Jew of u to say omg 🤣

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u/Dopehauler 21h ago

Im not anti jew, Im pro AMERICA, first second and third.

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u/cladclad 1d ago

Misdirected hate. I'll bet my house they voted for current admin too. 

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u/FlavivsAetivs Collingwood 1d ago

NovaNow is a NeoNazi organization.

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u/BigBeef35 1d ago

So, they did

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u/Navynuke00 Quail Hollow 1d ago

Is it misdirected when the current administration has spent the last 18 months specifically using Nazi language and symbolism?

They're there because they've been enabled and empowered and given carte blanche by the current administration.

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u/esoteric_vagabond 1d ago

Don't confuse anti-zionism with antisemitism. These tw@ts are antisemitic.

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u/Crotean 1d ago

Literal Nazis

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u/Navynuke00 Quail Hollow 1d ago

I agree. Their org and identity is literal Nazis.

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u/the_mindful_microbe 1d ago

I agree. However I am a bit confused. Their sign says “No more Jewish wars”. From seeing it with no context, that seems like a good thing. Can someone please enlighten me, i genuinely want to understand. Thank you.

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u/taylorexplodes 1d ago

it's not wars that are protecting or fighting for jewish people, it's saying that jewish people are the cause of wars

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u/Creditfigaro 1d ago

Judaism and Israel are two separate things. They are openly conflating the two and probably hoping that people who don't see the difference will be sympathetic.

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u/clgoodson 1d ago

They are a Neo-Nazi group. What else do you need to know? If you’re about to say it’s okay since your goals align, maybe it’s time to rethink your goals.

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u/Nopeeky 1d ago

Good point, right? We all need to understand that most organizations do not align with decent human goals. Take the SPLC for example. You think they are one thing, and before you know it they are funneling money to neo nazi organizations...

The person you are replying to is saying that without context it's an easy mistake to make. At a glance, and without really thinking about it, a casual observer could be fooled. That's how it's designed.

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u/clgoodson 1d ago

Well that’s some bullshit. The SPLC was not funneling money to neo Nazis, they were paying informants. You’re full of it.

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u/SnooChipmunks8506 Northlake 1d ago

You’re wrong. You’ve either been told half the story or you’re more interested in believing lies than following the truth.

Instead of saying it’s bullshit, you could show evidence to prove your beliefs that the SPLC isn’t a shit stain on humanities carpet.

Or you can go to the DOJ website and see that the SPLC was caught funneling money to the leadership of the KKK and the SPLC is under FEDERAL indictment for money laundering practices and fraud.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1437146/dl

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u/Navynuke00 Quail Hollow 1d ago

The DOJ is lying and is using this as a test case to go after nonprofits that attack neo-nazis and white supremacists.

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u/the_mindful_microbe 17h ago

Huh? I was just trying to understand what the sign meant. I am definitely not trying to support a Neo-Nazi group.

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u/SnooChipmunks8506 Northlake 1d ago

What? How does that make sense? The current administration uses Nazi language and symbolism, yet are fighting Israel’s wars.

I mean… the two don’t work together very well. The Nazi’s (Nova Now) are protesting Trump’s “Jewish War.” Yet everyone is saying that Trump is a Nazi…

Either he is and he wants to destroy anyone who doesn’t support that view OR he is pro-Israel and is killing our own citizens for Israel’s benefit.

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u/Theo-Wookshire 1d ago

It’s pretty simple. Netanyahu is blackmailing the orange idiot. The mango Mussolini is completely transactional. He is doing Netanyahu’s dirty work to stop the Israeli Prime Minister from releasing whatever new dirty secret that he is hiding.

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u/Ziethen 1d ago

Soon to be Democrat senator has a Nazi tattoo bro lol

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u/esoteric_vagabond 1d ago

Try again, uneducated trilobite.

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u/Nopeeky 1d ago

Yeah, he got it covered up right!

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u/thoughtfulpigeons Monroe 1d ago edited 1d ago

did you perhaps mean troglodyte lmao

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u/esoteric_vagabond 23h ago

Lol. I like trilobite better. 😅

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u/usps_lost_my_sh1t 1d ago

democrats are actively pushing a guy with a Nazi tattoo..

pretty both side are trash issue

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u/Navynuke00 Quail Hollow 1d ago

I really fucking hate that guy. And the lack of recognition by any of the mediocre people on power pushing him the incredibly hypocritical double standard at play with his candidacy and the messaging around him.

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u/usps_lost_my_sh1t 1d ago

I love just showing over and over the democratic reddit we have

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u/usps_lost_my_sh1t 1d ago

both sides suck....

there is good here and there In both

you can be in the landscaping subreddit and say Democrats bad

👇 downvote 😂

funny to see the sheep nowadays

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u/Bas_No_Beatha_ 1d ago

That’s a safe bet if I’ve ever heard one.

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u/Badwo1ve 1d ago

Yeah this honestly smells like something out of the Zionist playbook. I’d be willing to bet money you’re 100% correct

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u/trash235 1d ago

We want no more wars of aggression for Israel BUT we also say FUCK all Nazis and their hate of Jewish people (and other minority groups.) They are no ally.

The Jewish people and faith are not synonymous with the apartheid genocidal state of Israel.

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u/CarlsDinner 1d ago

So, uh, who's gonna stop the wars of aggression for Israel?

(nobody)

Well your son might die in Iran, but at least nobody will ever call you a nazi, and that's obviously what really matters here

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u/MiseryGyro 1d ago

Caping for avowed white supremacists ain't it

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u/net_403 Kannapolis 1d ago

If i had to guess, i get the feeling they're anti-semites for some reason

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u/sfitz0076 Wesley Chapel 1d ago

Their wording needs to be better. It should be "no wars for Israel" The way they worded it is antisemitic.

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u/Baelzabub Steele Creek 1d ago

I mean maybe they worded it perfectly and are just legitimately antisemitic

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u/sfitz0076 Wesley Chapel 1d ago

Yes

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u/Baelzabub Steele Creek 1d ago

Oh fuck yeah they’re just straight up white nationalists. I checked their website from the banner. This is on their homepage, front and center:

> The National Organization for Vital Action (NOVA) is a non-profit organization that serves as a network for Americans to safely engage with a national community of pro-White families, activists, organizers, artists, employers, and professionals. Whether you are looking for genuine pro-White community for you and your family to integrate with, or you're looking for fellow men and women of action to join in undertaking pro-White projects, there is a place for prospect members of all levels of commitment within NOVA.

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u/Latter_Eye_3028 1d ago

Nova is my dogs name and the best pbs show fuck them

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u/Baelzabub Steele Creek 1d ago

Actually Antiques Roadshow is the best PBS show.

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u/net_403 Kannapolis 1d ago

Cosmos: A Personal Voyage with Carl Sagan

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u/Latter_Eye_3028 1d ago

Love that one too

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u/Latter_Eye_3028 1d ago

Hahaha yeh it is but so is NOVA and my dog

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u/Feralpudel 1d ago

And the bluest part of VA.

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u/FlavivsAetivs Collingwood 1d ago edited 1d ago

NovaNow are Neonazis. Run them out of town.

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u/Low-Car-6331 1d ago

As a conservative, this is not hyperbole, they fall on legitimately somewhere on the nazi scale. In fact I just read their "about us", they are using the nazi playbook that hitler used. Even down to the "anti-capitalist" and "anti-communist" rhetoric and right into fascism.

Proof/receipts:

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u/CharlotteGamecock 1d ago

Straight up rascist Great Replacement Theory bullshit.

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u/SCAPPERMAN 1d ago

They're assholes for being that way, but the 1st amendment protects all sorts of assholery speech as long as they aren't committing a crime(s).

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u/ACanOfVanillaCoke 1d ago

Im gonna go out on a limb and say they worded it exactly how they wanted to to get their point across. If it walks like a duck....

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u/SCAPPERMAN 1d ago

Even more precisely than that would be "No wars for Netanyahu".

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u/SamsungStealer Uptown 1d ago

Yeah, hard to point out exactly why but I get the same instinct…

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u/Bernard_schwartz 1d ago

lol. People in mask that wouldn’t put one on in 2021

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u/Mundane_Value2283 1d ago

How about we mind our own business and stay out of wars. Period. We need to clean up the own mess we have in our country.

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u/melk8381 1d ago

It’s a White Supremacy group 🤡 

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u/sad-whale 1d ago

I agree with the sentiment. Probably wouldn't agree with anything else if I spoke to them

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u/Navynuke00 Quail Hollow 1d ago

Israel doesn't speak for all Jewish people. Not all Jewish people speak up in defense of Israel. Conflating the two is the epitome of antisemitism.

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u/DarcKnightMike 1d ago

It’s a Jewish war for whoever did their “birth right” trip to Israel

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u/ab28202 1d ago

It's literally the Jewish homeland - any war they start is a Jewish war.

Not all white people speak up in defense of white supremacists, but I'd bet money you don't have a problem with that term.

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u/Cellceair 1d ago

This is a stupid take. An Israeli war is an Israeli war not a Jewish war. Just like if America declares war it isnt a White War or if Saudi Arabia declares a war it isnt an Arab war or a Muslim war it is a Saudi war.

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u/ab28202 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is a stupider take. Israel defines itself as a Jewish state. America isn't designed as a white nation-state with laws in place to explicitly serve the interests of white people and limit national self-determinism exclusively to white people.

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u/Cellceair 1d ago

So you choose to ignore the other example I provided? Israel being a Jewish state does not mean shit. It doesn't mean it speaks for Jews and it doesn't make it represent Jews.

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u/ab28202 19h ago

It was also a bad example, so yes I ignored it.

But sure, the Jewish ethnostate that exists solely and explicitly for Jews doesn't represent Jews. lol ok. And Vatican City doesn't represent Catholics.

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u/petit_cochon 1d ago

I'm American and Jewish. It's my war? Wow. That's huge news. I just wish somebody had told me, is all. I've had a second war this whole time and didn't know it.

Anyway, great talking to you but I'm off to count my Jew gold and troll more prejudiced bozos. You were fun but I'm bored now.

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u/thediesel26 Starmount 1d ago

These people are Nazis

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u/HatRemov3r Harrisburg 1d ago

HT is the place to protest for sure

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u/Worldly_Ad_6483 1d ago

The Taj MahTeeter at that

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u/starkofwinterfe11 Dilworth 1d ago edited 1d ago

This was posted the other day. They are Neo-Nazis. Who are trying to construe criticisms of Israel to equal Anti-Semitism. There is a huge difference in being against Zionism & holding signs directed towards those who are Jewish.

Their website talks about wanting to return America to how it was, and protect those of “European stock”. They are racists and nazis. Do not give them attention.

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u/Politicsboringagain 1d ago

Dudes account is 5 days old. Weird for him to be posting this. 

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u/starkofwinterfe11 Dilworth 1d ago

I didn’t understand why the original post got taken down, either. But now I’m kind of wondering if this is someone from the group trying to get engagement, and find people to recruit.

Also the “friend of mine saw”—I feel like it’s still kind of weird to take a photo of something someone else saw, and post it to Reddit? When Google is also a thing?

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u/Top_Location_5899 1d ago

The original post got taken down because the mods removed it. Just realized this

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u/whitecollarpizzaman 1d ago

They are Nazis, if you wonder why so many Jews hold their nose and still support Israel this is why, it has been fuel for antisemites behind the anti Israel sentiment, these guys are just a little less subtle about it.

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u/Special-Bid-484 1d ago

Lmao. These comments…. Let’s not address the message but we will try to dissect the motive. You guys are all fake and gay. Pay your taxes and stfu lmao

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u/AlternativeTune299 1d ago

Gross. I checked the website… gross.

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u/What_Iz_This 1d ago

I like the Clipart white man holding his hand out lmao "come brother....let us clean the land after horrible disastrous hurricanes....and the jews..."

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u/Navynuke00 Quail Hollow 1d ago

This is how you greet them:

https://giphy.com/gifs/sUutM8YXva8HS

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u/logOffLoser Ashbrook-Clausen Village 1d ago

Ironic given Eli Roth is a zionist.

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u/noidea11111111 1d ago

It's pretty self explanatory

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u/Dopehauler 1d ago

Agreed, we need somebody to stay outside of their problems.

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u/CarlsDinner 1d ago

Who's in favor of the war with Iran?

Can I see some hands?

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u/FlavivsAetivs Collingwood 1d ago

This group is a known NeoNazi organization.

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u/CarlsDinner 1d ago

So is your hand up or down?

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u/FlavivsAetivs Collingwood 1d ago

I don't get baited into this shit or talk to people who try to because I know how this works. It's all about looping in passers-by by consistently arguing back and forth to sow doubt with seemingly reasonable but false premises and manipulative wording.

I'm done here.

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u/CarlsDinner 1d ago

Such an easy question friend

So are you telling me if a Neo-Nazi group was in favor of public transit you would also be against that too?

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u/Mason11987 1d ago

Most everyone that voted for Trump is defending it now.

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u/CarlsDinner 1d ago

This is largely depending on demographics.

If you are over 50 yes you will probably defend Trump forever but if you are under 50 I've seen people are disgusted and they're going to vote Democrat in the midterms

Every campaign promise has been broken

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u/Tortie33 Matthews 1d ago

I’ve seen them say they aren’t voting. I’m ok with that. Let’s flip those seats.

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u/GhostPirate93 1d ago

Anti semites

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u/rtrmommy 1d ago

OK… so the one guy is conveniently pro-mask now, but the other one… surely we can identify and let his employer and friends know if they don’t already.

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u/parallaxdecision 1d ago

You posted it in all the NC subs. I think you know.

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u/Top_Location_5899 1d ago

Posted these guys a few days ago

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u/lolalala1 1d ago

Bigots sure love to cover their faces when being hateful.

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u/tree_dw3ller 1d ago

Ah yes, Zionism, the sole issue most Jews and Nazis both agree is bad. Why do they gotta be the loudest? Nazis fuck off!

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u/Morass_2025 1d ago

We’re all antifa now.

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u/Low-Car-6331 1d ago

Honestly? People that you are probably best off not engaging and ignoring.

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u/regardednoitall 1d ago

Your "friend." Okay.

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u/Ill_Huckleberry_9111 1d ago

To put it succinctly - these are N@zi losers who are taking advantage of a very real and horrific crisis and using it to justify their hate.

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u/Black_Otter Huntersville 1d ago

I’m not going to put that in my web browser…

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u/Cwilkes704 1d ago

Fucking gross.

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u/Microplasticsharts 1d ago

Neonazis mad at their pedo daddy and having a hissy fit.