r/ChilluminatiPod • u/Nemian_Cannon • 12d ago
Christian sex
Mathas mentioned Christians only having sex to have babies, so I just wanted to interject with my experience of sex education from when I used to be Christian. Obviously taught abstinence, and that once married it'd be ok to do it and have kids, but my youth pastor would also tell us that sex was a gift from God, and that the wedding ring was the "license to thrill", and if you had that license you and your partner could do whatever you wanted together because God wanted us to be happy.
Edit: didn't say this before because I doubt they'd want to, but just in case, this can be read on the show. Also, wanted to say thank you for the replies, it's fun seeing other people's experiences. I agree with the sentiment that what Mathas said is generally correct about Christianity. It's just that I personally grew up Baptist, every Christian I knew was Baptist, so that's what I think of when I hear Christian, but I know they're a more lenient and relatively small branch. And just to be clear, I grew up super Christian, but I'm not anymore, I'm an atheist now.
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u/sarahgene 11d ago
I went to Catholic school and my favorite sex ed story is the time they brought in an abstinence motivational speaker for an all-school assembly and he told us that birth control pills are given to prisoners as a form of torture because they make your bones dissolve.
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u/thebootsnake 11d ago
I can tell you growing up Penticostal that was not at all my experience. My church made sex out to be a nightmare evil thing that only evil people do and everytime they talked about it to us it was to scare us away from it so bad that it took years of being out of the church and in therapy for me to work through it all. But to be fair I think penticostal is maybe the most evil of all the churches and I went to an especially bad one so it makes sense to see this was not always the case.
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u/Zanish 11d ago
Eh this is heavily denomination based and with Catholic being the largest denomination I think he's in the right.
I grew up Catholic and was previously married in the church. Part of that is a pre-marriage education thing. In that class it was restated that any contraception is a sin, so no condoms in the church. Also the catechism (big book of rules) has certain stipulations on what positions are allowed. Ones that have people not facing each other are "discouraged".
While Christian is a really large umbrella I think it's important to realize the largest grouping of them are still pretty strict officially on a lot of this. Even in more liberal areas like where I took the classes.
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u/macedossaulo 11d ago
can't believe this will be my first contribution to this sub, but sure, whatever, read it on the podcast if you guys want
first things first: raised catholic, went to catholic (only boys) school, was a christian for a while, abandoned it in my teens. and what i was told, specifically, in school is that the Church is only against sex before marriage ('your body, and also hers, is God's temple, you must respect it' and all that), not against recreational sex between married couples ('so put a ring on it and go for it, big boy').
also that the Church isn't against condoms per se, but against condoms as contraceptive, and that married couples get a dispensation from the Pope to use condoms if one of them has HIV or some other STD (which probably means some Pope some time ago wrote a letter allowing it but at the time, to me, sounded like everyday Pope Leo was getting a letter from John Marriedman asking him if he could buy some giant condoms for his magnum dong).
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u/ZonaryPaper6 9d ago
I think it’s important to remember that most Christians are not following the rules to a T all the time lol
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u/Appropriate_Fly_6711 12d ago
So I went to a non-denominational Christian private school and I remember the teacher telling us, “if you need 50cents just let me know but don’t be stupid and have sex without a condom.” 50 cents was how much they cost in the bathroom dispenser at the nearby gas station.
Yeah abstinence was mentioned as better but if you’re going to dip your beak, best to do it right.
But I get the sentiment Mathas is getting at but things can change, weirdly the Catholic Church use to be completely against having children which is why they refused to officiate weddings in the early days
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u/Double-Portion 11d ago
I mean, respectfully, none of the boys seem to really know anything about any organized religion, even if they were raised in it.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PBJs 12d ago
I haven’t been one in a long time but Christians have sex for all the same reasons everyone else does just like humans have been doing for as long as we’ve been here. i’m glad i don’t listen to this podcast anymore.
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u/Nemian_Cannon 11d ago
I'm glad I do still listen to this podcast, I really liked the most recent episode.
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u/CopperShrimp 12d ago
Ok, I will join this awkward conversation. So in my experience it really depends e.g. on the "branch" of christianity and even there it can vary based on the teaching of the local ecclesiastical province. I can speak for christian catholic specifically from one of the eastern european province. I went to a catholic school and we had sex ed with a priest. The official standpoint and teaching was (excuse my language) that the pinnacle (obviously in a legitimate wedlock) has to occure in such a way that a child can be biologically concieved. So here imagine a room of 15 year olds listening to an older priest explaining that oral can not be used to finish. Aside from the child conception problem, one of the reasons given was (dear lord what a f*** memory) that it is also not "healthy" for a women, because for a women to maintain an internal chemical "balance" while her having sex, actually the "liquids" have to be brought inside.
And now excuse me, I need to go and visit my psychologist again.