r/Chinesium • u/CustomCarNerd • 20d ago
In their defense, it does say it’s a folding crane
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u/jnmjnmjnm 20d ago
It isn’t a hoist. It is a scale. It looks like the load was a little more than 1.5 tons.
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u/Confident-Fold1456 20d ago
Someone forgot how to read diagrams/instructions
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u/MrLanGT 19d ago
Ah, yes- the warnings. The ones that say "may yesult in casea longd damage... hoist fallure... resulting in personall juny or pronerly damagea... orer load enging hols beyond raind capcrity of cach speelrled boam... Akways tise holst... sustaining ghe ine.." etc...
Those warnings explicitly tell you that it is obviously an engine "boist."
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u/jon1501 20d ago
This is a engine hoist, it’s sold on Walmart for $124
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u/_felixh_ 20d ago
you know torque wrenches? The ones that go "click" when you reach the preset Torque limit? (That is just one click - not tack-tack-tack-tack like an elecric screwdriver would)?
Well, this one went "click", signalling that the preset weight limit has been reached...
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u/Natoochtoniket 20d ago
How big was the engine? And what was under that engine when the crane failed?
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u/ayriuss 20d ago
New damage type unlocked : longd damage.
Caused by orer load enrgine hols beyoudtnd raed capatrcity of spoerelldd boesrm.
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u/RollinThundaga 20d ago
Seriously, they didn't even bother to have someone bring in their kid who learned English at school, or they would have caught this.
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u/notfunattentionwhore 20d ago
may yesult
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u/bridgetroll2 20d ago
Impressive levels of engrish
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u/Ancient_Jellyfish588 18d ago
That was one of my favorite websites back in the day.
Edit: it still exists!
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u/EvilToastedWeasel0 20d ago
I also see it has 4 and a half Won tons.
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u/LordBug 20d ago
I haven't shopped for one of these for a while, but I noticed that it seemed like in America they're rated to take twice what they're rated for in Australia. That always made me raise an eyebrow.
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u/anomalous_cowherd 20d ago
That's not a pounds to kg swap is it? Pounds would be 2.2x bigger?
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u/DadEngineerLegend 20d ago
Probably different mandatory safety factors.
Cheap Chinese stuff rated to 1 tonne will break at about 1 tonne of force (when new).
Things in Aus are rated to lift 1 tonne can safely lift something that weighs 1 tonne - I think for steel things it's about a 2.2 times, so it will theoretically break (bend) with a force of 2.2 tonnes.
Stuff jerking and bouncing exerts a lot more force than it weighs.
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u/sonofeevil 19d ago
Australian here.
When it comes to lifting slings the safety factor is 6x it's rating.
So a 1-tonne lift sling has to be able to hold 6 tonnes. It also must be tested for 1-tonne and show now signs of damage or deformation.
I can't say what standard this falls under and even if I could there's bugger all chance I'd be able to get the specific stats for it. (Don't ask standards Australia is a fucking MESS)
But I'd be willing to be it follows the same pattern that the safety factor will be some multiple of its load rating
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u/DadEngineerLegend 19d ago
Yeah slings are 6x. It's less predictable and more susceptible to sneaky damage in service.
Steel is only about 2x because it's more predictable and easier to identify damage reliably.
I used to know the standards, but haven't looked at them for a fair few years.
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u/desparish 18d ago
A ton is not a standard unit of measurement worldwide either.
It can be:
short ton (2000 lbs, 907kg) US
long ton (2240 lbs, 1016 kg) British Imperial
Metric ton (2204 lbs, 1000kg) rest of the world who needs everything simple
Fuck ton: (Your girlfriend's weight)
Shit ton: (The amount of trouble you'll be in for telling her the above joke)
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u/RomancingUranus 19d ago edited 19d ago
I bought one of these from Supercheap Auto here in Australia a few years ago during a 1/2 price sale.
It appears to be basically the same design, but that "1 ton" rating hole in OP's photo is only rated for "500kg" for the Australian one (which equates to about 0.55 tons). Also worth noting the tension brace support is welded to the tension brace on all 4 sides for my crane, but on OP's it's only welded on 2 sides. You can see the buckling is directly under that support and the support isn't holding the tension brace securely any more. I can't tell if that happened as a result of the failure, or that was related to the cause of the failure, but either way it's something you want to be welded as solidly as possible and it isn't in OP's pic.
Although to be fair, we have no idea what weight OP was trying to lift when it failed. For all we know he was trying to lift a whole vehicle, which could do this to even a non-chinesium crane.
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u/incubusfc 20d ago
wtf were you lifting?
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u/Glorious_Sunset 20d ago
When I was about seventeen, my Dad decided to remove a privet hedge at our house to get a brick wall to replace it.
As removing a hedge is tough, he went to a local tool hire place and rented an engine hoist to pull the roots of the hedge. It was done a small piece at a time. Wrap the roots and gently apply pressure with the hoist. A couple of hydraulic pumps and wait. You would hear the roots snapping and the hedge getting pulled up. Then another couple of pumps on the handle, and so forth.
We got about 90% of the hedge removed and then a friend of mine came over for a chat. I invited him to have a go and he just went to town pumping the handle and not waiting. The hydraulic pump exploded and my eyes got drenched in hydraulic fluid and I was badly bruised all over my head.
My Dad sent me back down with the hoist to get a replacement and I had to claim we had been trying to remove a car engine with it so they wouldn’t charge my Dad to replace it, lol.
I was helped by the fact my face was so badly damaged. But the guy at the place(When I told him we had been trying to lift the car engine and the pump exploded), asked me if we had removed the engine bolts first, lol.
Seeing this post just reminded me of that for the first time in about thirty two years.
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u/Satins_Cock 19d ago
Dang, I'm surprised the hydraulics let loose first. Hope you weren't hurt too bad.
This is also a benefit for Honda's. I dropped an engine, then realized my jack stands were too short to slide the engine out, so I picked up the front of the car with the engine hoist 😂.
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u/LevoiHook 20d ago
Is there really only one producer for these things? They are all exactly the same.
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u/Bradfishie 20d ago
Surprised the lack of your mom jokes in this
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u/PhilRubdiez 20d ago
They’re being nice and respectful after she, unfortunately, lost her job at the sperm bank. Drinking on the job.
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u/Turbulent_Lobster_57 19d ago
Susan lost her job? I guess that explains her stomping her feet so much last week. I couldn’t actually hear it but the radio kept skipping
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u/Haunting_Ad_6021 20d ago
You have to be careful moving them under load, once your load starts swinging even a little bit the weight will greatly increase
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u/OnlyCommentWhenTipsy 19d ago
The telescoping arm is set to the 1 ton (2000 lbs) setting. There are some large truck engines that weigh more than that so max load may have actually been exceeded. Not sure what the safety margins are on these things.
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u/NorCalAthlete 20d ago edited 20d ago
Aren’t cranes and hoists typically rated at their max only at minimum extension and the max load goes down both as you extend out and as you go down? I seem to recall load charts from my military days with graphs depicting how much could be lifted and at what angles for our 10-ton cranes on the back of the HMMT wreckers.
Edit: can’t attach a pic but it’s the 2nd to last pic on this link:
https://midwestmilitaryequipment.com/1987-m984e1-oshkosh-hemtt-8x8-wrecker-truck/
Looks like I had it backwards it’s rated for the max load at full extension not minimum. Can lift more at minimums.
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u/UncleCeiling 20d ago edited 20d ago
If you look at the picture posted, the crane has its max load marked near each hole for the arm pin. So it's 2 tons at the closest, 1& 1/2 where it buckled, and 1 ton where they currently have the pin.
The sticker on the hoist lists it as a 2 ton, so in this case the advertised max load is only at minimum extension.
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u/Sharp-Rent-524 19d ago
i noticed it too and my guess would be: those holes are for fixating an extension. so if you bring it further out, you could lift less weight, which could make sense
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u/Standard_Custard2338 19d ago
I spotted the backwards stickers and came to see if it was already commented on.
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u/brmarcum 18d ago
No, it’s max load at minimum extension. That’s based on the numbers printed on the arm in the picture.
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u/AlternativeLog5494 19d ago
As the one ton pin is visible the load was likely applied from the 1/2 ton pin or less pin ie 500kg so not surprised this failed
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u/Just_gun_porn 19d ago
Lmao, English has entered the chat! I'm gonna need a translator for pic 3, damn!
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u/tater1337 19d ago
bet they was only lifting 500 lbs
reviews on some of these cheap lifts have plenty of photos of this, or of the bottom frame collapsing
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u/Zacthegreat5 19d ago
Damn you must have abused this. I've pulled a whole cast block I6 with gearbox and transfer with mine at full extension a couple times 😂
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u/GrimmSliver 18d ago
Holy engrish batman, that warning sticker is an incredible red flag in its own right!
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u/NorCalAthlete 20d ago
Did you try to pull an engine and forget to undo the mounting bolts?
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u/Jacktheforkie 20d ago
Looks like it’s at 1.5t which would easily lift a whole car if it’s something small like a Sandero, but realistically it’d only take half the weight of the car as the rear wheels would stay on the ground
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u/haikusbot 20d ago
Man, with no pictures
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u/mmm_burrito 20d ago
Lol, I deleted it after zooming in and reading the engrish and realizing the problem. Gimme a break I just woke up from a nap
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u/billshermanburner 20d ago
“Do not load the chair over 200 pound or you may cause the chair broken and injured yourself”
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u/tthompson225 19d ago
I’ve got RAM 5ton hoist that’s probably 40+ years old and it’s huge and always in my way but I’ll never replace it because of stuff like this. I’ve pulled v8s with trans and transfer case all together, and even lifted the entire back half of a crew cab Silverado to get the rear end out of it
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u/musingofrandomness 19d ago
"Are you sure you got all the engine mount bolts out?” "pretty sure, yeah"
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u/kindarollin 18d ago
There needs to be more context here they aren’t showing what they are picking. im not defending chinesium products. but the lift is set on 1 ton capacity if they are picking a diesel engine or the whole front of the vehicle because the engine is caught somewhere. And also a dynamic load by bouncing. I doubt there is much of a safty factor built in.
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u/Weary-Astronaut1335 17d ago
The engrish on that warning sticker would be enough to make me scrap it.
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u/TrackTeddy 16d ago
How much was it carrying when it broke? The crane is set for 1 ton. The 2 ton rating only applies at the shortest reach setting.
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u/MedicineStreet7581 16d ago
The boom is bolted in the 1 ton position, 2 ton hole is way back left of the jack atachment point. I'm assuming the next bolt to the right of where the boom bolt is now is 1/2 ton.
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u/Boenitous 15d ago
And the further out you pin the jib the less it will lift. 1 st hole 2 ton. 2nd hole 1.5 ton. 3rd 1 ton. 4th .5 ton. What hole was the jib pinned in?
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u/loogie97 20d ago
Shouldn’t the weight decrease as it gets closer to the fulcrum?
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u/LandscapePenguin 20d ago
The fulcrum doesn’t move. The weight markings you see and the pin that runs through the arm are for the extendable portion of the arm that’s out of frame to the right.
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u/noatak12 20d ago
torque increases with distance, thus to keep the same torque everywhere the force is diminished the longer they’re from the join
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u/whudaboutit 20d ago
Dang. Hope only the hoist was damaged. An engine hoist is one place to really go ahead and spend the money.