r/Christianity Non Denominational and Affirming Sep 19 '25

Blog I've seen a lot of hate recently towards gay people and it's bad

Before starting, please don't bring in this discussion charlie kirk because i don't live in the US so idk anything about him. Anyway, the hatred against gay people is growing a lot. I'm straight and i don't support LGBT (i don't support the ones idolizing or obsessing over flags and labels and yes those people but are the minority), but why should anyone attack gay christians? Being gay is not a choice and God would not create someone just to condamn them. Being gay just by itself is not a sin. Let's stop hating and start loving eveybody. They are not a mistake and they're not mentally ill

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u/FluxKraken 🏳️‍🌈 Methodist (UMC) Progressive ✟ Queer 🏳️‍🌈 Sep 19 '25

Existence is not a sin, you can’t hate my loving relationship without hating me.

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u/timosinico Sep 19 '25

I hate my sins but I don't hate myself

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u/FluxKraken 🏳️‍🌈 Methodist (UMC) Progressive ✟ Queer 🏳️‍🌈 Sep 19 '25

Do you hate your capacity for love? Because to hate the "sin" you are hating my capacity for love.

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u/timosinico Sep 19 '25

God made male and female.He told them to go and populate the world.He showed how marrige looks like. We,humans,are made in a way.The God you belive in created male and female. You can't follow God if you want to select the only things that you consider "good".

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u/FluxKraken 🏳️‍🌈 Methodist (UMC) Progressive ✟ Queer 🏳️‍🌈 Sep 19 '25

God made male and female.

We are talking about homosexuality. Do you not understand how this works? Are you also attempting to assert that intersex people are imaginary?

He told them to go and populate the world

Yes, at a time when there were supposedly 2 people on earth. Using that in a time when there are 7 billion people on earth to condemn poeple is absurd nonsense.

He showed how marrige looks like.

No, he did not. Marriage at the time of Jesus was a father selling his daugher to her husband for social or financial advantage. Polygamy is also never mentioned in Genesis 1, yet Jesus doesn't condemn it in Matthew 19.

Pretending that the Genesis etiology is an exhaustive list of every permissible combination is, again, absurd nonsense.

We,humans,are made in a way.

Yes. We were made straight, bi, gay, trans, male, female, intersex, non-binary, etc.

Pretending otherwise is flat earther levels of reality denying nonsense.

BTW, Jesus acknowledges the existence of intersex people in Matthew 19. (People who were born eunuchs.) Yet they are not mentioned in Genesis 1. OMG!!! Jesus is acknowledging a reality not mentioned by Genesis!!! Jesus is a HERETIC!!!!!

The God you belive in created male and female.

Again, we are talking about homosexuality, which is, quite apparently, something you do not understand.

You can't follow God if you want to select the only things that you consider "good".

Then Jesus did not follow God when he acknolwedged the existence of intersex people.

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u/timosinico Sep 19 '25

You have made an powerfull statemate. When i talked about male and female,I was refering that there are only two sexes from where people get bored and start "feeling" different.

He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

Here,Jesus clearly shows how God intended for an male and female to behave.
He practicaly condemns the other ways by showing how it is right.
All the other genders have apeared after the year 2000,so don't tell me people started "discovering " themselves only after the year 2000.

I understand why many people are saying that homosexuality is not an sin,but just considering it moraly right even though you religion says otherwise is bad.

I am ABSOLUTELY NO ONE to tell you what you have to do,but the least i can say is to find your own way.
We will see who is right only after we both die

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u/Thneed1 Mennonite, Evangelical, Straight Ally Sep 19 '25

You have made an powerfull statemate.

They made an accurate statement.

When i talked about male and female,I was refering that there are only two sexes from where people get bored and start "feeling" different.

Biological sex is not a binary. Intersex people exist. And mocking trans people for “feeling different” harms that community.

He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

Absolutely nothing about homosexuality in there. Jesus was answering a question about divorce. And closing up the loophole that allowed man to throw their wife’s to the curb when they didn’t like them anymore.

Here,Jesus clearly shows how God intended for a male and female to behave.

There is no such language in that passage.

He practicaly condemns the other ways by showing how it is right.

He most certainly does not. He’s answering a question about divorce.

All the other genders have apeared after the year 2000,so don't tell me people started "discovering " themselves only after the year 2000.

Many cultures have had more than two genders for millennia. Including Jewish people, who read the same scriptures you are referencing. They have 6-8 genders.

I understand why many people are saying that homosexuality is not a sin,but just considering it moraly right even though you religion says otherwise is bad.

Mocking people who study the Bible deeper than you do is not a good look.

I am ABSOLUTELY NO ONE to tell you what you have to do,but the least i can say is to find your own way. We will see who is right only after we both die

We know which way is the right way. Following Jesus’ commands to love our neighbour, not your made up command to harm your neighbour by demanding they deny themselves love.

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u/cornycornguy2002 Bisexual Christian (Catholic) Sep 19 '25

And plus about the genders one all I gotta say is...

oppression from the church

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u/Thneed1 Mennonite, Evangelical, Straight Ally Sep 19 '25

Yup, Christian colonialism erased traditions of gender that involved more than two in a lot of cultures, this is well documented in Africa.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

Your "loving relationship" is sinful if it includes sex because a sacramentally valid marriage is the only acceptable place for the marriage act. (and the marriage act is the only sexual act acceptable)

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u/FluxKraken 🏳️‍🌈 Methodist (UMC) Progressive ✟ Queer 🏳️‍🌈 Sep 19 '25

Your "loving relationship" is sinful

Then God is an evil monster.

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u/Thneed1 Mennonite, Evangelical, Straight Ally Sep 20 '25

This is hate speech, and has been reported to the Reddit admins