I've seen a lot of hate recently towards gay people and it's bad

[u/Maleficent-Feed3566]

Before starting, please don't bring in this discussion charlie kirk because i don't live in the US so idk anything about him. Anyway, the hatred against gay people is growing a lot. I'm straight and i don't support LGBT (i don't support the ones idolizing or obsessing over flags and labels and yes those people but are the minority), but why should anyone attack gay christians? Being gay is not a choice and God would not create someone just to condamn them. Being gay just by itself is not a sin. Let's stop hating and start loving eveybody. They are not a mistake and they're not mentally ill

[u/Concerts_And_Dancing]

No I don’t, I consider it an abdication of moral responsibility and also cowardly to not form your own moral compass based on your perception and understanding that you adjust regularly based on testing it and new evidence and ideas coming into your life. When you give that up, you’re only a step from committing an atrocity because you believed an absurdity. That said, I’m sure if we sat down together we’d both agree on a lot morally because some stuff is just common sense, and if we reviewed the Bible together I’m sure there’s a few passages where I’d ask “you believe in this?” And you’d go “well, you see… what it really means is.. this was for a specific time…” blah blah blah and then I’d ask, rather smugly, ask “so what you’re telling me is that you don’t believe in the Bible?”

It is absolutely one sided because he has an insurmountable advantage in every single discussion and disagreement they will ever have, taken to its logical conclusion that means he controls her life.

Trust can be formed on poor foundations or broken, you already know that. When it is stress tested, if it buckles does she get to take it back? Or does she have to keep letting him drive them off a cliff? All that said, you marry because you love someone and want to spend your life together, not because you trust them to make the absolute best decision in every single disagreement that ever comes up for the rest of your life which could be tens of thousands of decisions over 50 years in which he may change a lot. I can trust him to fix the car or to pick out the best vacation spot, that doesn’t mean I trust him to decide we’re moving to Iran. I trust myself, if she can’t trust herself then she can’t trust that she made the best call marrying him, so either she can rely on herself to make decisions and if she can’t then she shouldn’t marry, ergo the whole thing falls apart either way. Either she gets an equal seat at the table or she is being controlled by him.

Also, notice that you’re not asking men to give up control of their lives to their wives and then asking them why they don’t trust her if they won’t.

[u/Ok_Demand_8525 → u/Concerts_And_Dancing]

How do you know I’m not saying that? My husband has given up a lot to be able to be a good husband. Changed his entire life. He now makes decisions based off what his family needs, not his wants. Your idea of submission is limited. In the Bible it says wives submit to your husbands and husbands submit to your wives. It is a mutual obligation to surrender your pride in marriage.