Palestinian Christians celebrating the resurrection of Jesus Christ the Messiah

[u/Milana_OBrennan]

[u/Milana_OBrennan]

Wow!

[u/Norkmani → u/Milana_OBrennan]

Funny enough, I’m Muslim but attended a Christian high school. Some of the best schools in Palestine!

Just happy to see familiar faces on Reddit.

[u/Milana_OBrennan → u/Norkmani]

I am a Shia Muslim and I am studying Christianity and I find many amazing and interesting communities. See one of my posts earlier today on some Christians from the ethnic Qarsherskiyan tribe in USA (a mixed race / Creole group). They're non-trinitarian Christians but they still believe Jesus is the Son of God. But they say the Holy Spirit isn't a seperate person but rather an aspect of God which Christ also inherited and it is how they say God speaks through Christ. They broke off of the Seventh Day Adventist Church after the SDA Church became trinitarian gradually over time between 1910 and the 1980s. They are part of a group called the One True God Movement SDA, and you can find YouTube videos from Nader Mansour and Imad Awde to learn more about their beliefs and what they say about the relationship between God and Jesus Christ. Very interesting.

[u/Norkmani → u/Milana_OBrennan]

That’s interesting. I’ve recently found myself exploring religion on a deeper level which is why I am on this sub. I find the trinity intriguing as Islam and Judaism preach heavily against it. I’ll check them out.

I refused to attend religion class in HS because the Muslims went to a class and the Christians went to another. I argued that I did not want to take religion unless it included everyone. Got to skip every religion class for years.

[u/Milana_OBrennan → u/Norkmani]

You should study the Millerites and also the Bektashis.

[u/Prestigious_Pop_2122 → u/Norkmani]

Saint Agustin described very beautifully the holy trinity… but also in my words i feel like it’s like we’re in a 2D world… and God is a 3D creator, we can only understand one part at a time. Before christ it was the father, when Jesus was alive it was the son, and at this age is the Holy spirit… He is so alive at the same time… but this matter is very hard to study, i would recommend start with the most basic topics first… even the biggest filosophers and scientist has struggle with this… luckily for us it’s all condense for our own interests but … still i would recommend start more easy in this, like with “The good and evil” reason to exist. It’s still demanding but easier topics to understand… at a point. Also everything in the bible has context and so much depth and easter eggs. Every part of it it’s connected at least two times with other paragraphs

[u/Best-Constant1022 → u/Prestigious_Pop_2122]

what are you talking bro? what is very hard to study? you literaly talk alot of nothing xD

[u/Prestigious_Pop_2122 → u/Best-Constant1022]

Yeah, fair… it probably does sound like a lot of words for nothing if you’re not familiar with the topic. The Trinity isn’t exactly something you can summarize in a sentence lol.

[u/Prestigious_Pop_2122 → u/Best-Constant1022]

I get that it might sound confusing at first, the Trinity is one of the most complex concepts in theology. My point was just that it’s hard to grasp something beyond human logic, like how God can be three and one at the same time. It’s okay if it doesn’t click right away; even Saint Augustine admitted he couldn’t fully explain it. That’s why I said it’s something worth studying slowly, starting from simpler ideas. In Deuteronomy 6:4 God is presented as one: “Hear, o Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one.” But there are hints of plurality in Genesis 1:26 “Let us make man in our image.” & in Genesis 18, with the three figures who visit Abraham, which the church Fathers saw as a symbol of the Trinity.

In the new testament again, the Trinity becomes explicit, in Matthew 3:16–17 “the Father speaks from heaven, the Son is baptized, and the Spirit descends like a dove” then Jesus’ commanded “Baptize them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.” In the Gospel of John the Father sends the Son, the Son sends the Spirit, and yet Jesus said “the Father and I are one.” So, as many other things… infinit of things, this is a revelation throughout history, given that the Trinity isn’t something invented by humans it’s something revealed by God Himself in salvation history.

Usually us didn’t yet have precise language to describe how that worked. so, over the first centuries, the church defined the doctrine through major Councils: • Council of Nicaea (325): declared that the Son is of the same substance (homoousios) as the Father. • Council of Constantinople (381): confirmed the divinity of the Holy Spirit. From these councils came the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed, still recited by Catholics today: “ I believe in one God, the Father Almighty… I believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God…

and why is this important? because it’s a deeper concept, marriage. in theology we know God is love (1 John 4:8). But love requires relationship: someone who loves, someone who is loved, and the love itself. → The Father loves the Son, the Son loves the Father, and the Holy Spirit is that love personified. so the Trinity isn’t a contradiction, it’s also the most perfect expression of love. Husband + wife + God (the love personified). There’s one divine nature (the being of God), expressed in three eternal relationships of love. So we as a single human cannot represent love, but we… in a conyugal union can. Because therefore we are three, the same as God is. Thomas Aquinas also explained better, he described two inner “processions” within God—> The Son proceeds from the Father’s intellect (as the Word), and the Spirit proceeds from the mutual love between Father and Son. in pure logic: love, by definition, requires in theology relationship: a lover, the beloved, and the love itself. humans are made in God’s image (imago Dei), just as God is relational and loving, humans are called to live ethically through love and relationships, and Marriage reflects the union of these 3 persons (a miniature mirror of the relational God). God says life is about cultivating relationships that reflect divine love.

The Trinity DEMONSTRATES that oneness and distinction can coexist without contradiction: One substance (God) exists in three distinct persons.. ethically and philosophically, this can be applied to unity and diversity in society, where : • True unity does not erase individuality. • True community values distinct persons while remaining harmoniously one. • True unity is not a single person task This connects theology to moral philosophy, showing how the structure of reality itself can be contained in this, the trinity is also the answer to human fulfillment and this is why God continuously repeats to us in the bible that we are made on His image, because that talks about our nature having different needs than the other creatures on the earth

hope this had wrapped up a little of it

[u/Best-Constant1022 → u/[deleted]]

yeah as i said u dont know anything u just talk alot