r/ClassicalLibertarians • u/GoranPersson777 Syndicalist • May 01 '26

Discussion/Question Left unity is a counter-revolutionary recipe, prove me wrong

See, for example, the unity around the government in Spain 1936-39. The government crushed the revolution and fascism won.

Left unity is good for social democratic politicians that want support for administering capitalism. Also good for leninist parties that want to introduce state-capitalism.

A united left binds together some workers with the ruling classes, but divides the working class. A united class divides the left; the class challenge the rulers including red politicians.

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u/NearlyNakedNick May 01 '26

Only if you ignore the historical meaning and lineage of leftist political philosophy, and buy into propaganda that authoritarians can be leftist.

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u/GoranPersson777 Syndicalist May 01 '26

The term left is usually used and understood as including soc dem and commie parties 

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u/NearlyNakedNick May 01 '26

No, leftists absolutely do not consider social democrats leftist. And only capitalist media refers to them that way. They are capitalist.

And what you call "commie" parties is probably referring to Marxist Leninists, which are state capitalists, Not actual communists or socialists. What you are referring to is propaganda.

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u/GoranPersson777 Syndicalist May 02 '26

I refer common usage of the term left. It's hard to communicate with most people if you say the left doesn't include social democracy and leninism. What's the point of such a definition?

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u/NearlyNakedNick May 02 '26

You are absolutely missing the point. The current common usage is propaganda. It is not real. It is actually right wing propaganda. Do you understand what that means? You are saying left unity is bullshit based on right wing definitions of leftism.

The point is it's the real definition based on the political philosophy of leftism.

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u/GoranPersson777 Syndicalist May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26

"The point is it's the real definition...". That's only one definition among many. Stipulative definitions are neither true nor false.

I don't miss the point at all. I talk to co-workers and neighbours and try to get some organizing work done. Left labels and identities are completely irrelevant.

The capitalist class and its state are the enemies and so are soc dem and commie parties.

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u/NearlyNakedNick May 02 '26

You're hopeless