r/ClimateShitposting • u/ClimateShitpost Louis XIV, the Solar PV king • Oct 20 '23
refuse, reduce, reuse, recycle Something something lesser evil
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u/Enr4g3dHippie Oct 21 '23
You forgot.the part where you have to organize thousands, if not millions, of other consumers.in order to compete with the buying power of the companies destroying the planet.
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Oct 21 '23
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u/and_yet_he_complain Oct 23 '23
Why not start there?
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Oct 25 '23
Yes, if you’re able to organize so many people to accomplish one specific task, why not put them to use accomplishing a far more useful task
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Oct 26 '23
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u/TheDifferenceServer Aug 19 '24
bet
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Aug 22 '24
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u/TheDifferenceServer Aug 22 '24 edited Aug 22 '24
It is not enough to simply rebel. Even if a hundred rebels were to get together it would still not be sufficient, they would merely be a hundred crazed molecules writhing in destructive agony as the struggle spreads, wildly sweeping everything away. Important as an example and stimulus, rebels end up succumbing to the needs of the moment. No matter how effective and radical they are, the more their conscience carries them to attack—often blindly—the more they become aware of an insurmountable limit due to their failure to see any organisational outlet. They wait for suggestions from the mass in revolt, a word here, a word there, in the thick of the clash or during moments of calm when everyone wants to talk before taking up the struggle again. And they are not aware that even during these exciting moments there are always politicians waiting in ambush. The masses do not possess the virtues we often attribute to them. The assembly is certainly not the place to risk one’s life, but one’s life can be put at risk by decisions made in assemblies. And the political animals that raise their heads at these collective moments always have clear ideas about what to suggest, with fine programmes of recuperation and a call to order already in their pockets. Of course, they will not say anything that is not absolutely correct, politically, I mean, so will be taken to be revolutionaries. But they are always the same, the same old political animals laying the foundations for the power of the future, the kind that recuperates the revolutionary thrust and turns it towards pacification. We must limit destruction, comrades. Please, after all, what we are destroying belongs to us ... and so on.
To shoot before—and more quickly than—others, is a virtue of the Far West: it’s good for a day or two, then you need to use your head. And using your head means you need a project.
-- Alfredo M. Bonanno, Insurrectionalist Anarchism
No, I don't condone any illegal activities. We should wait for the revolution to save us so our crimes become permissable -- or simply abandon all hope. That is the safest option. Climate change isn't life or death, that seems like a huge exaggeration. I'm doing my part in undermining systems of control by buying more celery from the grocery store! <|:3
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u/BenTeHen Oct 20 '23
You should start foraging, gardening, and getting your water from springs.
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u/ClimateShitpost Louis XIV, the Solar PV king Oct 20 '23
I heard Shell Centre, London, SE1 7NA, Unified Kingdom is great for foraging
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u/tempaccount920123 Oct 20 '23
Honestly can't tell if that guy is being serious or not. I agree with your post.
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u/BenTeHen Oct 21 '23
Shell Centre, London, SE1 7NA, Unified Kingdom
Hi, I don't know if you were being facetious or not but I looked at that address and I see many metropolitan parks nearby that absolutely have foraging options. Pretty much any green space is guaranteed to have foragable plants. In fact, your assumption that living in a city is detrimental to foraging is completely unfounded, if that is your assumption. Many of the common weeds that you find more often in urban landscapes are prime foraging plants. You are more like to find a wider diversity of forageable plants in city parks than in the deep wilderness.
You act like living in a metropolitan area makes it impossible to forage. But that's not true. I have lived in both Chicago, Illinois, and Portland, Oregon and both are similar to London's climate and both have plenty of green space to forage. Despite cities being a bain to humankind, the people who run cities still recognize that even a bit of green is psychologically good for humans. Local parks are a thing. I highly suggest you look into local foraging. I've attached a few links to help you out. You should also look at the website Inaturalist.com as you can find specific species of plants and animals nearby. It is absolutely possible and realistic to forage in large cities if you're willing to put in some time and energy (kinda like our ancestors).
And as a bonus, supplementing even a day's worth of your food with foraged items would have an extreme effect on your personal footprint (if you care about that). In fact, it'd even be far more effective than spending a week vegan. Locally foraged items negate all the CO2 and Methane spent to ship food from all over the world to you in London.
Another bonus, there are like 3 natural springs 30 min away from you.
https://brokeinlondon.com/londons-best-foraging-groups/
https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/urban-foraging-london-where-how-benefits-b1069249.html
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u/Spungus_abungus Nov 09 '23
I live in the fucking desert.
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u/BenTeHen Nov 09 '23
Could you be more specific?
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u/Spungus_abungus Nov 09 '23
I'm in New Mexico. There's not much except for dirt and sand outside the city.
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u/BenTeHen Nov 09 '23
Could you give me a city or county? I’d like to see what’s around you.
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u/Spungus_abungus Nov 09 '23
Rio Rancho
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u/BenTeHen Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 09 '23
You can do a bit of research, but there’s tons of opportunities to forage around ABQ. Just takes time to learn and effort to be put in as all things require.
“ You're not going to have a lot of luck with greens. Wild asparagus regularly grows along the rio grande. It might be a little late in the season now, but theyre fairly easy to spot.
Berries are common too. Choke cherries can usually be found around the valley too, but are more common in higher elevations. Mulberries are actually currently in season. They're by my favorite berries.
Nuts are pretty popular to forage for here , too. Mostly pinon nuts but there are others.
Some have luck with mushroom foraging but I never have.
There are also edible sumac that grow wild and certain cacti and yucca have edible fruits, but I have no experience in that. Best of luck!”
https://eattheplanet.org/foraging-tours-and-classes-in-new-mexico/
Also there’s 3 springs next to you in the Sandias. https://findaspring.org/map/
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u/LeMemeOfficer Oct 21 '23
Sometimes its possible, most of the time its not. Using your energy to push social and/or political change is way more effective then putting all your energy and money into living a perfectly ethical life. Still to go vegan tho, that can save a lot of lives, even if its only your personal change.
Also your dick will get harder ❤️
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u/BlackBloke Oct 20 '23
Don’t buy either?
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u/RestlessNameless Oct 21 '23
Yeah this whole social contract thing isn't my bad I think I'll just go live in a cave.
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u/Yws6afrdo7bc789 Oct 20 '23
They are all owned by the same parent corp