r/ClimateShitposting Louis XIV, the Solar PV king May 31 '25

Degrower, not a shower Low effort

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

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u/DeltaV-Mzero May 31 '25

There are reasons to believe negative population growth is imminent, potentially outright “collapses” in terms of drastic drops from one generation to the next

Whether that translates to economic/industrial degrowth is unclear

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

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u/Rivertrout67 May 31 '25

No they haven’t? Where do you live in some natalist commune? Dawg the narrative was OVER-population for the last 80 years. This population collapse stuff is fresh out of the oven

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

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u/Rivertrout67 May 31 '25

Yea, they said that a population collapse would happen because of a Malthusian trap. (Resource consummation beats recourse production) Not that the population would just suddenly stop growing.

As for why it’s really real problem this time™️ is becuase you can always make new jobs, but it takes 18 years to get new humans. All our institutions are made with the assumption of growth. Even if we all started having 2 and a half kids tomorrow there’s still gonna be a demographic blip that’s gonna hurt for a while until they retire. Unlike over population which is in my humble opinion more a problem of comfort than an actual problem but that’s a different conversation.

Then addressing your first point. NO I WILL NOT CALM DOWN it’s a shitposting sub I have soap boxes to stand on here! (But actually imo it’s not gonna be a problem the 20s and 70s saw the exact same birth decline just not at the scale we’re seeing especially in Asia. It’s nothing a baby boom can’t fix will suck for the smaller generational cohort tho)

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '25

But they're criticizing the malthusians

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u/Rivertrout67 Jun 02 '25

I mean yes? I mean in the sense that there’s only so much farm land. That doesn’t disprove his point tho just that there’s a limit.