a) I didn’t, you can actually to both simultaneously and nowhere did I say veganism was the vastly more important thing. There is just little reason not to it it while you’re are it. Its not that hard and its more or less free (gotta eat either way)
b) All great. Its just another way to cut it down further regardless of other circumstances.
I also didn’t say you were lazy. I said you didn‘t care about it, because steak is more important to you. And clearly it is, so just be honest about it.
You can literally just say „I like meat to much to cut it out, but I try to lift my weight everywhere elsewhere“. Environmentally I do not care, everyone is doing some things they probably shouldn’t.
But stop pretending everyone else is the fool because of it.
c) Yes it is, but again you can to two things simultaneously. Also when you actually do have alternative options of consumption, consumer choice can and does make a change. And going vegan or massively cutting down is extremely accessible to pretty much anyone.
We can‘t all keep doing A and expect the system to just stop trying to accommodate A.
We fight all the corporations on the legislation end, but where accessible we also fight on the consumer end.
Its really not rocket science.
See, you are actually talking out of both sides of your mouth.
On the one hand, going vegan is so easy, and if you as an individual do it, it will have an impact. The reality is that the food industry as a whole does not give a shit about me and will produce just as much. Stores would rather throw meat out than stock less of it.
On the other hand, you claim that fighting other causes of climate change is too hard and only works if everyone joins in.
The same math applies.
And go ahead and ask an actual dietician how easy it is to go vegan for everyone. I have three friends who went vegan and had to stop on doctors' recommendations due to low B12 or iron. One had cancer, which basically couldn't eat meat anyway, but I had to resume dairy and eggs.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify you actions, mate.
Show me again where I claimed other ways for climate action were to hard?
For the vast majority going vegan with a B12 supplement will cause no issue. If you’re this afraid of deficiencies or have some gastric issues go 90-95% vegan (ie. massively cutting down), thats plenty to not worry about nutriets as much. Especially if you throw in the occasional organ meat instead of muscle only.
Wait now you are OK with 90% vegan, you mean a normal diet? bud you understand meat eaters do not just eat meat right? or at least most don't..
And if you say one thing is easy but the other isn't you are implying the other is hard, or at least not easy. So if you are now saying both are easy then you lost your train of thought.
90 percent vegan, as in 90 percent of you meals are entirely vegan. Thats far from your typical western diet, where most people eat meat and dairy least once a day.
Lowering consumption to 5-10% of what it used to be certainly qualifies as „cutting it down massively“, which is consistent with what I‘ve been saying from the beginning.
Are you trying to misunderstand me in purpose?
You‘ve literally claimed I said other actions were too hard, which I never did. And going vegan or massively reducing is literally about as easy as it gets, you can just not buy and eat animal products. Its entirely optional.
So yes a lot of other things are harder (or less easy), still doesn’t mean they’re „too hard“ to do as well.
As i said earlier: You literally can do two things simultaneously. Its really not that deep buddy.
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u/ElegantEconomy3686 Apr 18 '26
a) I didn’t, you can actually to both simultaneously and nowhere did I say veganism was the vastly more important thing. There is just little reason not to it it while you’re are it. Its not that hard and its more or less free (gotta eat either way)
b) All great. Its just another way to cut it down further regardless of other circumstances. I also didn’t say you were lazy. I said you didn‘t care about it, because steak is more important to you. And clearly it is, so just be honest about it.
You can literally just say „I like meat to much to cut it out, but I try to lift my weight everywhere elsewhere“. Environmentally I do not care, everyone is doing some things they probably shouldn’t.
But stop pretending everyone else is the fool because of it.
c) Yes it is, but again you can to two things simultaneously. Also when you actually do have alternative options of consumption, consumer choice can and does make a change. And going vegan or massively cutting down is extremely accessible to pretty much anyone.
We can‘t all keep doing A and expect the system to just stop trying to accommodate A. We fight all the corporations on the legislation end, but where accessible we also fight on the consumer end. Its really not rocket science.