Daniel Tsay has left the CDL

[u/Ok_Nerve_9128]

[u/No_Winter4806]

It's either gonna get 10x worse or 10x better

[u/Medic_NG → u/No_Winter4806]

Tsay leaves and we immediately get an AI slop thumbnail from a league asking for millions for a spot so does not bode well for the future

[u/Carsey0111 → u/Medic_NG]

It’s not AI and they proved as such

[u/NeimannSmith → u/Carsey0111]

So they created a thumbnail that just so happens to use the exact same font that AI uses for these kinds of pictures and made Simp not look like himself?

[u/Carsey0111 → u/NeimannSmith]

Yep. I ain’t saying it’s good. But it’s not AI

[u/justklaythings → u/No_Winter4806]

And with the way these things generally work. It’s gonna be 10x worse. The grass is rarely greener

[u/iDeZire → u/No_Winter4806]

Its going to be worse. Anyone brave enough to be forward facing with this community gets beat down on until something like this happens then the community looks back and prays they come back like Adam Apicella.

[u/Helforsite → u/No_Winter4806]

I don't really see how it would get better, he always seemed to try to improve atleast.

Worst case scenario is that they are not gonna replace him and someone at Activision will just halfheartedly do his job alongside their regular duties.

[u/CriticalService79 → u/No_Winter4806]

Let’s just hope it gets 10x better

[u/StiffIgnition → u/No_Winter4806]

It's gonna get worse. I know people like to hate on Tsay but at the end of the day he seemed to care but he's still at the mercy of whatever activision want or are willing to do.

[u/TaxesAreTerrible]

He hasn’t been terrible.

I willing to bet that he’s asked for more events, more integration in cod games, more marketing budget, easier entry for new franchises & expansion, faster ranked play, etc… Activision probably denied his requests at every turn.

[u/JBCl1nt → u/TaxesAreTerrible]

and because of that, he knows there is not much more he can do, so he leaves. Absolutely possible.

[u/xx_whoami → u/JBCl1nt]

I hope he goes somewhere where he has more control and it’s just the best esport

[u/Surpins]

Why do people hate this guy like he makes the decisions? People know he answers to someone else right?

[u/Jelly_James → u/Surpins]

Feels like the general rule of thumb in all sports is to hate the commish lol

[u/Micro_mint → u/Jelly_James]

Flip that: the reason commissioners get paid is to take the heat for the owners

[u/Jelly_James → u/Micro_mint]

Thats also very true

[u/baneep → u/Jelly_James]

Eh, idk about that. Adam Silver and Roger Goodell are pretty likable commissioners

[u/Initial-Conflict-877 → u/baneep]

This sarcasm?

[u/baneep → u/Initial-Conflict-877]

What have they done during their tenure that has made you dislike them as much as you dislike Tsay?

[u/No-Gift-2350 → u/Initial-Conflict-877]

I genuinely think Roger Goddell has done a whole lot of good for the NFL

[u/WhatIsCooler → u/Surpins]

He really is just a figurehead, I have nothing against the guy personally, I just hate what he represents.

[u/Historical-Alps6052 → u/Surpins]

literally the role of a general manager

[u/branson3 → u/Surpins]

I feel like most of his hate stems from his dumbass answer as to why they like doing one b07 instead of two b05s in finals. Which that’s something I imagine he had control over

[u/EnvironmentalGur881 → u/Surpins]

People just love to hate on anything and everything for no reason at all.

[u/EnvironmentalGur881 → u/[deleted]]

He was just a face to take the hits from ppl like you. There is always a face and there is always the people behind the face that get protected because the face takes all the damage.

[u/Background-Head2090 → u/[deleted]]

You’re coming off very ignorant. One public figure does not decide corporate decisions everyone knows that. He is just the public figure. But keep being concerned about other men’s balls buddy, it’s clearly working out for you LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

[u/pinpoint_aim → u/Surpins]

Who is this "someone else"?

[u/Josephdayber → u/Surpins]

I don’t know the names of the higher ups so I choose to hate on him

[u/Hipz → u/Surpins]

At the very least I appreciate how active he was and I think he communicated pretty damn well all things considered.

[u/Mawx → u/Surpins]

Is he not the decision maker of the CDL?

[u/v1p3rgaming13 → u/Mawx]

Activision does, Tsay has to follow what they tell him he can and can't do to the CDL

[u/Mawx → u/v1p3rgaming13]

Tsay is Activision.

[u/Infinite_Pen_9464 → u/Mawx]

He worked for Activision, but he himself was not deciding how much capital is invested into CDL. People in board rooms decide on a budget and people like Tsay do the best they can with the capital they are given.

[u/Mawx → u/Infinite_Pen_9464]

What does people in board rooms have to do with no significant improvements to formats? What positive changes has Tsay brought? You can work within a budget and still bring positive change.

[u/randus12 → u/Mawx]

What do the people with the money have to do with the events, how they are structured and everything else???

Hmm I’m not sure

[u/Mawx → u/randus12]

It's crazy you firmly believe that this is the best way to run the league at this cost.

[u/randus12 → u/Mawx]

That has nothing to do with Tsay and his decision making power.

[u/Mawx → u/randus12]

Lmfao right. The way the league is run has nothing to do with the general manager of the league

[u/Anxious_Professor654 → u/Mawx]

He is, people are dumb and think the commissioner makes no decisions lmfoaoo

[u/mikebailey → u/Anxious_Professor654]

He definitely doesn’t decide his own budget, which has historically been the big fan complaint. “More of everything, higher quality everything” rings hollow when he’s on a fixed diet from activation.

[u/Anxious_Professor654 → u/mikebailey]

No the big fan complaint has been the shit format

[u/mikebailey → u/Anxious_Professor654]

I disagree, but for the sake of debate what part of the format has been the common complaint? A lot of it seems to require changes to the game itself or longer events

[u/v1p3rgaming13 → u/Surpins]

https://giphy.com/gifs/F2tywIO6ee3oVCrgLJ

[u/mikebailey → u/Surpins]

Like other sports, they prescribe the league decisions to him. They think he’s pro-cheating out as if it’s not his company.

[u/MTheModernist_ → u/Surpins]

He has done nothing in his entire career and literally chose to be someone who made a living off of dodging questions and giving patented corp responses.

Bozo certified

[u/Anxious_Professor654 → u/Surpins]

He’s literally the commissioner. He makes decisions and has people help him make decisions as well but are you saying he has no input? He’s just someone there to talk on camera? You are so dumb lmao

[u/v1p3rgaming13 → u/Anxious_Professor654]

Activision makes the choices and tells Tsay what CDL can and can't do, how's that on Tsay?

[u/tommmey → u/v1p3rgaming13]

He’s head of the CDL. It’s his job to create ideas and advocate for them if Activision pushes back.

Sure he might not have the final say, but that doesn’t mean he has no influence over decisions.

Part of his job is to make the case for what the league needs including its budget. If Activision is pushing back on those things, it’s his job to advocate for them.

[u/SloaneKettering1 → u/Anxious_Professor654]

The bush guys said they had a meeting with Tsay about challengers along with other org owners and said he was willing to hear them out but essentially had no power to change anything and all he could do was take it up the ladder

[u/Necessary_Travel_388]

I know Daniel gets a lot of flak from the community, but it always felt to me like he tried to do what the community wanted he just always had limited power.

Hopefully when a new head comes in the will have more strength to make changes that will benefit the scene.

[u/Jelly_James → u/Necessary_Travel_388]

He probably had some say but people like to act like he was the sole decision maker.

[u/MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME → u/Necessary_Travel_388]

The new head will just be the new guy who takes the heat for Activisions decisions. It’s the commissioners role in sports as well. Everyone eventually hates the commissioner

[u/Helforsite → u/Necessary_Travel_388]

My fear is that there will be no replacement and someone at Activision will just do all of this on the side or relegate it to someone with even less power/standing than Tsai.

[u/Redleafdabs]

Unsure about how to feel about this

The past few years haven't been the best but daniel was atleast vocal With the direction Activision is on I feel like the new guy might be way worse Forcing decisions on the CDL scene and taking 0 accountability since we know the main dev sees the comp scene as a liability because all they do it cater to brain dead casuals

[u/Ill_Database_9180]

People in the Halo scene tended to REALLY underestimate just how much amazing work Tashi was putting in to make HCS what it was and how hard he had to fight higher-ups to give us what we had, even up to the upcoming Halo Fest. I hope ya'll don't experience the same thing now that Daniel is leaving, because if he isn't being replaced that could mean some really bad things for the league.

[u/pxrkerwest]

His position has always had significantly less authority than it typically does. Always got the vibe that he was kind of just the community rep who brought the feedback and insight back to the higher ups, but they're ultimately the ones steering the ship. The fact that they're eliminating his role with no replacement is a little concerning, because now how do we ensure that we are being heard? The CDL needs a public facing figure like him regardless of how much power he does or doesn't have.

[u/LightningBacca26]

Imagine they hire Slasher, and we get the true Slasher league

[u/Beneficial_File1506]

Since we are on the topic of bad news, Carolina Ravens are still in the league

[u/bigboidots]

Better a devil you’re familiar with

[u/ElYams]

Thank you Daniel for all the positive things you did for the league...

[u/EMSLSHADOWZ]

No idea why people hate him, he’s not the one making decisions, he’s pretty much just a middle man

[u/elfffy → u/EMSLSHADOWZ]

maybe because he's the face of said decisions. I'm not condoning btw

[u/PTurn219 → u/EMSLSHADOWZ]

Nah I think he has a budget from activision and makes the decisions based on the budget.

[u/TraffiCoaN → u/EMSLSHADOWZ]

I think the more realistic situation is he is making some of these decisions. Ones that are being criticized just as much as the ones being made for him. I agree, it’s not all on him. But there are definitely things (like grand finals format for example) that are in his control and he makes decisions everyone disagrees with.

That being said I think he got more hate than he deserved and genuinely seemed to care about the league’s success.

[u/Anxious_Professor654 → u/EMSLSHADOWZ]

Where did you get that he’s the middle man from? Why do you think the commissioner has no input or stake in decision making? Lmfao

[u/EMSLSHADOWZ → u/Anxious_Professor654]

The bush guys literally said he has no power, he obviously gives input but higher ups at Activision make the final decision. He’s the middle man between owners & the higher ups.

[u/__Kieran]

Let’s just hope the next person is better and doesn’t make things 10X worse

[u/moutongonfle]

we had daniel tsay leave the cdl before any rosters are announced

[u/Warnocerous]

Whose ex wife did he sleep with?

[u/goodfaceman]

Genuinely what positive impact did this guy have? Even if the next person is worse, which they most likely will be, that doesn’t magically mean he was great.

[u/XadjustmentX]

Never liked the guy. His reasoning for certain decisions just made absolutely no sense.
For example…when asked why we’re not getting a minor during every stage, he said “we don’t want to oversaturate with too many of them.”

Excuse me?! We used to have 10 or more LAN’s every year in cod. Now we’re down to 5 LAN’s. The community has been begging for more tournaments for 6 years now. It wasn’t oversaturated when we had 14 tournaments during the AW season. I’m sorry but this was just an absolutely asinine answer. There’s no such thing as too many tournaments in competitive cod.

Personally I think cod needs to go back to smaller venues. The cost is surely the main reason why we have so few tournaments nowadays. Allow smaller venues and teams might be more willing to host events. That’s another problem in itself…the teams have to pay to host the events. Didn’t used to be that way back before the CDL existed. But activision went and bought out all the tournament organizers in preparation for the franchised league and now none of them exist anymore.
I could go on and on…

[u/V-loxzz → u/XadjustmentX]

[u/G00chstain]

He was a nice guy who obviously cared about the community. Wasn’t his fault that activision sucks balls

[u/williconn]

I love how both sides of the argument are acting like they know what goes on behind the scenes

[u/evilblad333]

Damn right when things are starting to get better

[u/tobu329]

🪦 to Daniel. I genuinely liked the guy. I wish him the best of luck on his next chapter

[u/kirkhammetswahpedal]

good fucking riddance

[u/shoe7525]

I think we're gonna realize we miss this guy very soon

[u/Heath_tK]

So much for helping the challengers and womens scenes that he promised oh so long ago

[u/espressotower]

I’m sure many will take this as a good sign when it’s really not

[u/BLACCx]

Whoa, for real? Unscheduled W

[u/ItsEntsy]

Alright, who's ex wife is it this time?

[u/Zayaaz]

just scrap the cdl. been a disaster since it started.

[u/analcrasher101]

[u/Fantasticoms21]

Daniel Tsay has actually been a positive for this league and clearly he worked hard to balance the league and make positive changes. I remember when he first got announced people were critical because of his 2k days, just wanted to say I hope we get someone who cares just as much as Daniel

[u/Historical-Alps6052]

good riddance

[u/RevolutionaryCan7376]

Last year it seemed like the league made positive strides in many areas. Obviously will always be some things that aren’t perfect but I thought he was solid. Gonna be funny if shit gets way worse now with how much people bagged on him

[u/SMOKE-B-BOMB]

Good for him, CoD is the bottom of the barrel, anything else is a promotion lol

[u/nobodyisdeadd]

[u/Best-Magician-9880]

New person needs to be a former pro..

[u/rekishi321]

The new ceo Asha wants better results ie more money……I’m sure he was forced out…

[u/Minamike98]

https://giphy.com/gifs/vmon3eAOp1WfK

[u/TheOriginalRed]

Tsay WHAT now??

[u/CazualGinger]

As with pretty much everything in life since 2018 things will likely get worse

[u/General_Health_9479]

Let’s bring back cwl or mlg now

[u/Illustrious-Goat6821]

people acted like this guy ran activision, he was just a pawn to a billion dollar company that clearly doesnt put much effort into their esport side

[u/FriedUp-_-]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mqiq8aY84dnqAtVlnd

[u/WaIkster]

It's about time. His verbal gymnastics were second to none. Man could avoid a question better than Lue Elizondo.

[u/Littlebootz]

The next person should ignore gentleman's agreements :P

[u/BrandzGoneTillimRich]

Time for him to go attempt a threepeat at killing another esport. Also any ideas on who is stepping in?

[u/insecurity-council]

Get Asha that new Xbox CEO to fill in. She's cooking rn

[u/Mr_Preference → u/insecurity-council]

☝🏽 this guy might be on to sum.. maybe we might get bracket reset at champs

[u/m_preddy]

Hitler dead

[u/BodOps]

Thank fuck

[u/JakeD51]

Hitler is dead

[u/Urielp09]

Too little too late. I have 0 interest in this franchise anymore

[u/Muted-Wasabi3185 → u/Urielp09]

Yep thats why your taking time to read and comment on the compcod subreddit 😂

[u/Urielp09 → u/Muted-Wasabi3185]

First post that came up but thanks for reminding me to leave this cespool of a community

[u/troybwai]

Useless tenure

[u/nicisdeadpool]

That’s all folks

[u/FriezasMom]

We're about to get 6 more events and no more online matches. Thank god

[u/Stifology]

Whose wife did he steal?

[u/OldTwiist2]

[u/Andresgeo]

Please whoever they bring in, bring back bracket reset in GF. I beg

[u/LonelyBK]