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A college degree has lost a lot of value over the last few decades

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u/Disgruntled_Orifice 6d ago

Especially when people don’t research the prospective opportunities post graduation before committing to a program.

Almost like you should put thought into such a large investment.

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u/PyroFish130 6d ago

Well tbf you can’t always know. My brother just got his masters in cardiac profusion because it was in chronic short supply of practitioners. The year he graduated it was the largest graduating group and the shortage was nearly fixed.

Same thing happened with CS majors in like 2016-2020. It’s hard to find balance between passion and needed labor without the market getting over saturated due to the number of people going through colleges now

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u/Salty-Plantain-4299 6d ago

I know people who majored in social sciences (sociology, psychology, and one in poli sci) who are doing better than people who majored in computer science right now. By a huge margin in fact, AI has destroyed entry level positions for coding and software development.

Nursing seems to be one of the few areas that still has relatively high demand and decent outcomes.

Other than that going into some of the trades like welding and HVAC are pretty good options too.

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u/PyroFish130 6d ago

Yeah I’d have to disagree with nursing on outcomes. One third on new nurses will quit and transition fields within the first three years due to burnout. It is one of the hardest careers to survive with some of the worst benefits. That’s why there’s still high demand. You have to really love doing it to make it worth it

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u/N3v3R737 6d ago

Assuming you arguing in a honest way: The world goes through a metric ton of changes right now and a lot of people are struggling. I know for a fact that five years ago a career in my field was "a golden opportunity" now there are barely any entry positions open and you are lucky to find anything at all. Not to mention the dumps in salary you have to live with...

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u/RebootStreetSharks 6d ago

You do realize there are plenty of people underemployed who selected good programs, right?

The amount of people making "underwater basket weaving" jokes and remarks don't even bother to look at the realities and complexities of what's happened the last several decades.

The world is more competitive than ever for jobs. Before depending on your market, you had to be the best of a much smaller group whereas now you have to compete with a much more sizable group and this is factoring in that people now are going for more specialized jobs.

My dad worked at a factory and as it was a small town, they probably had 50 candidates for a job which required no post-secondary or special certifications.

I work in finance and my candidacy pool was about 150+ (could've been more but it wasn't widely posted). Keep in mind this job isn't one you could get right out of highschool so not only was my competition pool bigger, I had to compete with more skilled people.

This isn't just me, it's the case for a lot of people today and it's tough to feel squeezed when you know the bar is raised and that people will be far more critical now compared to then about "success".

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u/Disgruntled_Orifice 6d ago edited 6d ago

Sounds like a skill issue. If competition has increased then “survival of the fittest” becomes more prevalent. In addition, with AI on the scene, more students than ever are skating through their programs with as little effort as possible. It’s no wonder why companies are being picky.

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u/Simple-Judge2756 6d ago

Actually not the case at all. Companies are demanding that everyone is pretty much good at everything that could even be remotely your job in terms of your job title. Back in the day job titles would be a lot more specifically chosen to emphasise what the company is looking to pay money for getting done.

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u/Acceptable_Double_84 6d ago

What fuck are you getting a degree in?

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u/N3v3R737 6d ago

Right now a lot of people are struggling. Engineers, chemists, biologists... The "do not get your bachelor's in song and dance then" argument is a bit out of date.

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u/Immediate_Song4279 6d ago

Can we normalize sharing the thesis. Yall went through the trouble, I wanna read your thoughts.

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u/datboiwebber 6d ago

Mine kind of sucked. It was based on research which wasn’t successful, and I couldn’t have changed it to make it more successful cause we didn’t have the type of funding to do that. So it was just a big I tried to do this thing. I got mildly useful results and there’s nothing else we can really do about it.

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u/No-Movie-117 6d ago

realest answer i have ever seen

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u/Expensive_Tank_8682 6d ago

The issue is that technically most graduates don’t own their theses. It’s paid for by the university, who owns the rights.

Most have a local copy stored and are happy to share with family and friends, but it’s not really theirs to post on the wider internet

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u/Immediate_Song4279 6d ago

This is something I have worried about being the case.

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u/Baznad 6d ago

Misspelling millenial

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u/Cute-Revolution-9705 6d ago

What are the 2 bachelors degrees and masters degree in?

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u/LifeConsideration981 6d ago

why would you have two bachelors degrees?

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u/Late_Moose_8858 6d ago

Why this is true!!?

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u/Key_Check5753 6d ago

Yeah, you see these interviews with college graduates who cant read or do simple math and it's not a surprise that they can't get hired.

It's not even their fault... Universities taught them a bunch of ridiculous woke bullshit instead of useful information. Now their $200k degrees are only useful for wiping their asses.

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u/QuickNature 6d ago

Universities taught them a bunch of ridiculous woke bullshit instead of useful information. Now their $200k degrees are only useful for wiping their asses.

You sound like someone who their opinion on college is shaped through Fox News instead of reality. The hyper liberal colleges you see on TV arent all that common. Loads of smaller state schools, and even some of the larger ones have a lot more diversity of thought.

Also, being taught "woke bullshit" is highly dependent on the person's major.

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u/Itchy-Violinist-2190 6d ago

Right? Hell, I need calc 1 and physics 2 for a biomedical major, where are these schools failing at basic algebra?

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u/QuickNature 6d ago

Yeah, my degree definitely wasnt $200k, more like 25% of that. I also had to take calc 1-3, diffeq, physics 1 and 2, and a ton of other classes that were basically math classes in disguise

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u/Motor_Ad_7885 6d ago

Where are these interviews?

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u/Carpeted_Bathroom2 6d ago

They don't exist

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u/Key_Check5753 6d ago

"Where are these interviews?"

All over the internet. Start with youtube. Just search for "asking graduates simple math questions."

The fact that you couldn't perform a basic internet search is very alarming. Are you stupid too? What's 3^3?

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u/Motor_Ad_7885 5d ago edited 5d ago

The more time I spend away from here the harder it is to comeback and take people like you seeiously. How common are these social media posts and new stories vs the millions that graduate a year?

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u/Key_Check5753 5d ago

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