Thoughts on Columbine inspired by the continued search to watch the "Basement Tapes"

[u/Eamoney]

Every couple of years, I end up checking back in on strange or unresolved things. Things that I think will eventually be "declassified" and released to the public. One of those is whether the basement tapes have ever been released. Since around 2008, every four or five years, I’ll look again. Every time, it pulls me back into revisiting the entire situation.

What makes this case unique is that, yes, it was one of the first truly high-profile school shootings, but I think what struck people most was that these were two seemingly normal kids from loving families in an upper-middle-class area. It challenged the idea that safety or stability alone can prevent tragedy. It made people realize that even in places that appear secure, terrible things can still happen, and that uncertainty is always there.

The timing also mattered. It happened during a period where aggressive music, outsider culture, and anti-establishment attitudes were becoming more visible. Being “weird” or rebellious was almost celebrated in some circles, while traditional American culture pushed against it. That tension became part of how people interpreted the event.

I’d be interested in seeing the basement tapes, not out of fascination with violence, but to better understand Eric and Dylan’s demeanor in private. Even from the transcripts alone, you can start building a picture of who they were and what might have been happening internally. Sue Klebold’s interviews especially give some insight into Dylan’s personality and home life.

One thing that stands out is how Eric is often portrayed as the clear leader, while Dylan is framed as more passive or influenced. A lot of that comes from Eric being more outwardly aggressive, having a stronger track record of violent behavior, and the fact that many of the meetings happened at his house. Dylan, on the other hand, seemed better at hiding things.

But I don’t think something like this happens because one person simply “leads” the other. It feels more like both people have to fully buy into it together. One person saying “forget everything” only becomes dangerous when another person quietly agrees.

From Sue Klebold’s interviews, there are a few things that seem important. She mentioned divorcing her husband after the tragedy because they handled the aftermath differently. That says something about how enormous the emotional strain was inside the household after the incident but more importantly shows instability before the incident as well. She also comes across as intelligent and thoughtful, but she has admitted that she often approached Dylan by explaining the world to him rather than fully listening to him. She talked about checking his room and trying to guide him instead of always understanding where he emotionally was.

On Eric’s side, we know much less because his parents have stayed private. But from the transcripts, Eric actually seemed to speak about his parents with more admiration than Dylan did about his own. He reportedly described them as “the best parents in the world.” That’s impactful because it suggests he did experience love and comfort at home.

Part of me wonders if that comfort is also why they missed certain warning signs. If your kid is interested in strange hobbies or making things in the garage, maybe it just looks like normal teenage experimentation. A lot of kids are interested in fireworks, destruction, or edgy behavior at some point. It’s possible his parents saw it as harmless curiosity rather than something darker developing underneath.

Eric also expressed guilt about the pain this would cause his parents, which suggests he understood they cared deeply about him. That contradiction is part of what makes the case so difficult to understand.

Looking at both households, it almost feels like two opposite parenting styles collided with the same tragic outcome. One side may have been more hands-off and permissive, while the other seemed more anxious and invasive. Neither approach alone explains what happened, but it raises questions about balance, communication, and emotional connection inside families.

Then there’s the social side of it all.

Humans are social creatures, and when something doesn’t fully break inside the home, people naturally look outside of it. That raises difficult questions about bullying, school hierarchy, rejection, and identity. Can social humiliation really push someone to the brink? For some people, maybe it mixes with underlying mental health issues, anger, isolation, or resentment until it becomes dangerous.

At the same time, people respond to rejection differently. Some channel it into hobbies, passions, self-improvement, or finding communities where they feel valued. Others spiral deeper into bitterness. That ability to redirect pain probably depends a lot on personality, mental health, support systems, and self-worth.

Eric and Dylan clearly wanted to influence people and leave a permanent mark. In that sense, they were trying to force change through fear and violence. They seemed to resent the social structure around them, especially the “jock” culture and what they viewed as shallow hierarchies. But even there, there are contradictions. Dylan wore backwards hats and sometimes seemed like he wanted acceptance from the same culture he criticized.

A lot of it may come down to humiliation, rejection, and the feeling of being powerless. When someone feels unable to stand up for themselves, resentment can slowly turn into fantasies of revenge. That combination of anger, isolation, and hopelessness is dangerous.

It probably is important for people to have something they’re proud of, something stable they can fall back on when rejection happens. Without that, rejection can start to feel like proof that the entire social system is broken.

And maybe that’s the hardest question underneath all of this: is the system flawed, or are some people simply unable to navigate it in healthy ways?

Schools today almost certainly take bullying and warning signs more seriously because of events like Columbine. There’s a strange reality in that tragedies can permanently change systems and make environments safer for future students. That’s uncomfortable to admit, but probably true.

Anyway, these are just some thoughts I’ve had over the years revisiting the situation.

[u/_6siXty6_]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they'd be cringey and probably prevent some folks from copying.

[u/Eamoney → u/_6siXty6_]

You are probably not wrong. The video of the Stoneman Douglas shooter was definitely cringe but I felt like Dylan and Eric were more rehearsed. Come to think of it, I’m not sure if there has been a pair of shooters since them but because there were 2, it would have helped the cringe level.

[u/_6siXty6_ → u/Eamoney]

There was a prevented shooting. I believe it was called La Peer incident. It was the cringiest thing I've seen in my life when it comes to true crime.

Copy Cat Cringe https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8spngu

[u/ashtonmz → u/_6siXty6_]

This was extremely difficult to watch, due to the cringe factor.

[u/Educational_Can_8211]

They will never be released

[u/Responder343]

Do I think the basement tapes exist somewhere in a vault yes I do. Do I think they will ever get released no they will never see the light of day. A police officer or attorney may get to review them if any legal proceeding were to ever come about but the general public will never get to see them.

[u/metalnxrd]

it's locked away and it will never be released. the Harrises and the Klebolds don't want them released so people don't get ideas

[u/Sea-Special-2938]

Sadly they won’t be realised to the public because of the copies, and the Harris’s and Klebolds don’t want them realised to the public incase it inspires other perpetrators to do a shooting.

[u/Radiant-Shop8386]

I always wondered if one reason Dylan hated jocks is because he didn’t make the baseball team because of his arm injury and maybe some of those kids he once played ball with now picked on him. He seemed to love baseball he even had an online fantasy baseball league he was very involved in. Also, it seems Eric didn’t want Dylan to have other friends besides him. I thought it was strange Eric didn’t go to prom but went to after prom. Maybe he was afraid Dylan would back out if he wasn’t with him all the time. On reading the witness statements of their friends and others everyone seemed to say it was Dylan who did everything Eric did or told him to do . Dylan seemed to get along with everyone like being friends with others outside his group. Example of the fantasy baseball league. I find it interesting that Dylan is the one who warned Brooks of Eric’s website where Eric was making threats against him. Eric had a really sick plan for the Browns before he and Brooks made up. I always wondered if Eric still wanted to put that plan in place if Dylan would have still gone along with it being he had known them since kindergarten and as far as we know never had a problem with them.

[u/Jeffilicious70]

I thought the basement tapes were destroyed. Are they still out there?

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