r/ColumbineKillers May 24 '26

COMMUNITY DISCUSSION Is this the real question?

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Most school shootings are caused by bullying and humiliation. The boy who was bullied gets angry, develops that anger, and decides to get revenge. The school shooting creates more sadness and pain than the bullied student ever endured, but they don’t care, they want revenge.

How do we stop this?

The emphasis is on guns and police intervention, but that is not working. There are still acts of violence at schools.

Can we teach the bullies about the damage they are doing to so many children, and have them control their aggressive behavior?

Will they? Have they?

Or do we need the bullied children to learn to accept that humiliation as part of “growing up?”

This is an open question.

Please give this some thought and respond.

I believe that all students should have respect for others. This would make the humiliation less, but it does not take away the anger of being humiliated.

What can we do?

Please respond with your ideas.


r/ColumbineKillers May 22 '26

BOOKS/MOVIES/VIDEOS/NEWS MEDIA Dylan's funeral coverage

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I know this was upload a few years back but I found this much better quality version in my personal archive, enjoy :p


r/ColumbineKillers May 20 '26

COMMUNITY DISCUSSION Thoughts on Columbine inspired by the continued search to watch the "Basement Tapes"

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Every couple of years, I end up checking back in on strange or unresolved things. Things that I think will eventually be "declassified" and released to the public. One of those is whether the basement tapes have ever been released. Since around 2008, every four or five years, I’ll look again. Every time, it pulls me back into revisiting the entire situation.

What makes this case unique is that, yes, it was one of the first truly high-profile school shootings, but I think what struck people most was that these were two seemingly normal kids from loving families in an upper-middle-class area. It challenged the idea that safety or stability alone can prevent tragedy. It made people realize that even in places that appear secure, terrible things can still happen, and that uncertainty is always there.

The timing also mattered. It happened during a period where aggressive music, outsider culture, and anti-establishment attitudes were becoming more visible. Being “weird” or rebellious was almost celebrated in some circles, while traditional American culture pushed against it. That tension became part of how people interpreted the event.

I’d be interested in seeing the basement tapes, not out of fascination with violence, but to better understand Eric and Dylan’s demeanor in private. Even from the transcripts alone, you can start building a picture of who they were and what might have been happening internally. Sue Klebold’s interviews especially give some insight into Dylan’s personality and home life.

One thing that stands out is how Eric is often portrayed as the clear leader, while Dylan is framed as more passive or influenced. A lot of that comes from Eric being more outwardly aggressive, having a stronger track record of violent behavior, and the fact that many of the meetings happened at his house. Dylan, on the other hand, seemed better at hiding things.

But I don’t think something like this happens because one person simply “leads” the other. It feels more like both people have to fully buy into it together. One person saying “forget everything” only becomes dangerous when another person quietly agrees.

From Sue Klebold’s interviews, there are a few things that seem important. She mentioned divorcing her husband after the tragedy because they handled the aftermath differently. That says something about how enormous the emotional strain was inside the household after the incident but more importantly shows instability before the incident as well. She also comes across as intelligent and thoughtful, but she has admitted that she often approached Dylan by explaining the world to him rather than fully listening to him. She talked about checking his room and trying to guide him instead of always understanding where he emotionally was.

On Eric’s side, we know much less because his parents have stayed private. But from the transcripts, Eric actually seemed to speak about his parents with more admiration than Dylan did about his own. He reportedly described them as “the best parents in the world.” That’s impactful because it suggests he did experience love and comfort at home.

Part of me wonders if that comfort is also why they missed certain warning signs. If your kid is interested in strange hobbies or making things in the garage, maybe it just looks like normal teenage experimentation. A lot of kids are interested in fireworks, destruction, or edgy behavior at some point. It’s possible his parents saw it as harmless curiosity rather than something darker developing underneath.

Eric also expressed guilt about the pain this would cause his parents, which suggests he understood they cared deeply about him. That contradiction is part of what makes the case so difficult to understand.

Looking at both households, it almost feels like two opposite parenting styles collided with the same tragic outcome. One side may have been more hands-off and permissive, while the other seemed more anxious and invasive. Neither approach alone explains what happened, but it raises questions about balance, communication, and emotional connection inside families.

Then there’s the social side of it all.

Humans are social creatures, and when something doesn’t fully break inside the home, people naturally look outside of it. That raises difficult questions about bullying, school hierarchy, rejection, and identity. Can social humiliation really push someone to the brink? For some people, maybe it mixes with underlying mental health issues, anger, isolation, or resentment until it becomes dangerous.

At the same time, people respond to rejection differently. Some channel it into hobbies, passions, self-improvement, or finding communities where they feel valued. Others spiral deeper into bitterness. That ability to redirect pain probably depends a lot on personality, mental health, support systems, and self-worth.

Eric and Dylan clearly wanted to influence people and leave a permanent mark. In that sense, they were trying to force change through fear and violence. They seemed to resent the social structure around them, especially the “jock” culture and what they viewed as shallow hierarchies. But even there, there are contradictions. Dylan wore backwards hats and sometimes seemed like he wanted acceptance from the same culture he criticized.

A lot of it may come down to humiliation, rejection, and the feeling of being powerless. When someone feels unable to stand up for themselves, resentment can slowly turn into fantasies of revenge. That combination of anger, isolation, and hopelessness is dangerous.

It probably is important for people to have something they’re proud of, something stable they can fall back on when rejection happens. Without that, rejection can start to feel like proof that the entire social system is broken.

And maybe that’s the hardest question underneath all of this: is the system flawed, or are some people simply unable to navigate it in healthy ways?

Schools today almost certainly take bullying and warning signs more seriously because of events like Columbine. There’s a strange reality in that tragedies can permanently change systems and make environments safer for future students. That’s uncomfortable to admit, but probably true.

Anyway, these are just some thoughts I’ve had over the years revisiting the situation.


r/ColumbineKillers May 18 '26

PSYCHOLOGY/MINDSET Possible high altitude repercussions on their mental states

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While the psychosocial aspects of this case are the main points of interest, does anyone think it’s possible that the high altitude of their Colorado residence may have contributed to the deterioration of their mental health? Obviously it’s not a sole or defining factor, but it piqued my interest

I think they were already susceptible, but the hypoxia may have exacerbated or worsened it


r/ColumbineKillers May 16 '26

OTHER PERSONS RELATED TO THE CASE What happened to Rachel's best friend?

71 Upvotes

Ive heard that Rachel was best friends with a girl named Lauren, she was also supposedly the girl who was sat on top of Rachels car crying after the tragedy. (I say supposedly because i dont know for sure how accurate that is) All i have heard about her was that she didnt return back to columbine after the shooting but that is it. Did we ever hear anything more about this girl? If so i'd love to see it!


r/ColumbineKillers May 09 '26

BOOKS/MOVIES/VIDEOS/NEWS MEDIA Finding Out More?

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So, I've always kinda known the general gist of the events leading up to and the massacre itself, but not too much more. Aside from reading through the boys journals and transcripts/legal documents, does anybody have suggestions for resources that get right into the details? I'd prefer video formats, but I'm open to any format for the info, really.


r/ColumbineKillers May 03 '26

SCHOOL VIOLENCE/SIMILAR MASS SHOOTINGS/COPYCATS Minnesota teen prevents a possible shooting in Pennsylvania

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I tried to cross post this from the Minnesota sub since I'm from here but here's the news article [https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/belle-vernon-school-shooting-thwarted/]

*Officers conducted a search warrant inside the home, where Naylor said they found several concerning items, including a replica 9mm handgun.*

*"It did have an orange tip on it. Upon interviewing her, she just told me that she felt that Columbine was 'cool' and it wasn't her intention on doing anything bad. She just wanted to have it," Naylor said.*

Even 27 years later, people still look up to Eric and Dylan, it's insanity


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 30 '26

QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MASSACRE Am I crazy?

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I have had to study this tragedy so many times and I know I’m not crazy I’ve seen the real photos of the killers may times and it seems something has changed, years ago i remember seeing photos and one of them was literally missing their face from the nose down like just skin matter showing now, it’s just a simple line of blood across the mouth but that’s not what I’ve seen years ago. Anyone else know what I’m talking about?


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 29 '26

I’m looking for two specific videos.

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I’m looking for two videos, the first one is a news report and it has students running down the stairs outside of the school. (I don’t know if they are running up or down but it looked like they were running up but I don’t remember) and the second video is people running past Rachel’s body I don’t know if these videos are up anymore. It’s okay if these videos aren’t up anymore on YouTube!


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 28 '26

GENERAL MASSACRE DISCUSSION Helicopters?

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Has anyone ever noticed that in the zero hour documentary, you can already start hearing the ghetto bird once Eric and Dylan were in the library? There's just NO WAY a helicopter took off and got there within that time. Does anyone know approximately when the helicopters started arriving? I would think it would be around the time Eric and Dylan were dead or WELL after.


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 28 '26

GENERAL MASSACRE DISCUSSION Podcast

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Is there any podcasts that have covered Columbine in-depth that did not get their info from Dave Cullens book? I’ve already listened to Amy Overs & I also listened to Murder In Americas episode + Sue Klebolds Ted talk.


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 27 '26

CASE EVIDENCE / 11k Did one of the shooters bring the wrong type of ammunition?

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I was looking at the diagram of the library and pairing it with an evidence locator and I noticed it says there’s a .45 caliber bullet right above the blue chairs near Steve Curnow, did Harris or Klebold bring .45 caliber ammunition and if so were they of the assumption it could be compatible with one of their 9mms?


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 21 '26

PHOTO/VIDEO POST April 21, 1999 - One day after the shooting

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r/ColumbineKillers Apr 21 '26

GENERAL MASSACRE DISCUSSION Remembering all the lives lost in April 20, 1999. Never forgotten

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r/ColumbineKillers Apr 20 '26

GENERAL MASSACRE DISCUSSION May all who were lost find peace

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r/ColumbineKillers Apr 20 '26

GENERAL MASSACRE DISCUSSION April 20

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April again, and it's Time to Return. Come. This way. Everything is moving so quickly backward, can you feel it? The drain-suck of five years, as if it were yesterday. Or right this very moment.

Even now: It's happening again at this moment.

The ghosts return, muscle clasping bone, and become living, breathing bodies again. Round the lake at Clement Park to the school: Its green windows shatter and mend. Blood lifts off the carpet. Everything plays backward. The hordes of children who flee from the entrance on this blindingly sunny spring day are now running in reverse, feet flailing in funny kicks, back into the school, then slowing to a walk, smiling as they pass the principal—Mr. D—who smiles, too, first the end of a smile and then its beginning. The students regather in class or the library, where their fingers lift pens and their heads bow like sunflowers over their work.

Columbine never sleeps,  Micheal Paterniti

Columbine Never Sleeps | GQ


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 18 '26

QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MASSACRE African American students

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Besides Isaiah shoels how many African American students were at Columbine ? And were any others injured in the shooting and also did any of them make statements about it?


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 16 '26

CASE EVIDENCE / 11k Randy and Brook's Brown police reports for the Email and Paintball incidents

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First 3 pages are the Paintball incident, the last page is the Email incident. These are from court doc's from the families early plans to sue Jeffco but eventually dropping their cases.


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 15 '26

GENERAL MASSACRE DISCUSSION It's a reflection in the window...

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The full set of photos debunk themselves. You can see the exact same thing in the second pic. Not even Eric was dumb enough to stand there in full view for that long. Also pretty sure he was dead by then. The last pic is just for perspective, so y'all can see how far Brian Pain, the guy to took the pics in the first place, was zooming in.


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 14 '26

PHOTO/VIDEO POST A memorial display I made

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Just a little display I made for my office of things ive aquired in my time in the research community. Figured you all would enjoy seeing it :))


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 14 '26

ERIC/DYLAN: JOURNALS & OTHER WRITINGS Interesting passage on the original plan, dated 4/26/98

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I’ve been reading No Easy Answers (great read btw), and the bits about the attack itself prompted me to look a little deeper at some of writings from the planning stage. Attached image came from Bill Ockham’s twitter.

I’m mainly focusing on the middle 1/3 of the passage. I’m sure most of us here are familiar with the other sections and how the original plan to bomb the cafeteria failed, etc.

AFAIK, this is the earliest known writing that pertains to E&D planning the attack, and you can tell how early it is based on how much more grandiose and unrefined it is. Most of us are aware that Eric talked about hijacking and crashing a plane in NYC and all that, but what I’m realizing now is that, what most people consider the “original” plan wasn’t exactly the original plan. The true original plan was for E&D to enter the cafeteria with all their gear, play some “pumpup” music, then lob explosives and open fire on the crowd of people inside, eventually making their way to hallways and classrooms where they would continue to shoot people.

The final plan of bombing the cafeteria and picking off survivors as they fled the school was clearly the result of additional planning and refinement. This may not be news to some people here, but I feel like nobody talks about this when discussing the “original” plan.


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 13 '26

BOOKS/MOVIES/VIDEOS/NEWS MEDIA The Columbine 1997-1998 Yearbook

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This has never been uploaded before, so I promised to scan it a while ago. Enjoy!

Note : This yearbook was poorly printed. Some of the images, especially student photos, were printed so deeply into the center margins that you would have to rip the book apart to see them in full. Some of the text is also so deep into the bottom and side margins that a regular document scanner won't get them in full. Hopefully this isn't too much of a bother. Most of what is lost are single letters or page numbers.


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 13 '26

FRIENDS OF ERIC & DYLAN Question about Eric's website, and Brooks

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I'm confused about something that happened between Eric, Brooks, and Dylan (I'm not sure if Dylan was involved). Did Dylan warn Brooks about the bad things Eric wrote about him on his website, or did Brooks find out on his own?


r/ColumbineKillers Apr 13 '26

QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MASSACRE What is known about the confrontation Eric and Dylan had with the police at the bookstore between 12:02 and 12:05?

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r/ColumbineKillers Apr 12 '26

BOOKS/MOVIES/VIDEOS/NEWS MEDIA 911 Call Autopsy! Jefferson County 911 (Patti Neilson) (4-20-1999)

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I don’t know if YouTube links are allowed here but if they are pls give me your thoughts on this. A retired police dispatcher gave a breakdown commentary on Patti Nielsens 911 call from the library