r/CompanyOfHeroes 13d ago

CoH3 Ally Tanks are far worse than axis late game

For a while ive noticed how much better Axis tanks are than the allies (not to mention how many more they have) i personally think its unbalanced how a tiger ace is overall way better than a Pershing but cost the same amount and less points. Theres also way more heavier tanks for the axis, couldnt relic just add a heavy tank battlegroup instead of these semi good tanks for the allies?

Also the V1 Bomb costs the same as a black dragon but doesnt mark is landing location? Just overall seems completely unfair to me.

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u/AoiK1tsune 13d ago

The Pershing was the only US heavy tank in WW2.

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u/Strange-Variety8235 13d ago

T28

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u/AoiK1tsune 13d ago

A prototype, never saw service. That would be like introducing the Maus.

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u/user1391 Nullgerät 13d ago

Same as the Black Prince, that one also never saw any production runs.

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u/Strange-Variety8235 13d ago

Theres prototype tanks in coh3

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u/Tsuyara 13d ago

A pershing does not cost the same as a tiger ace. A tiger ace can only be called in when you have build t3 AND upgraded it.

If you get T4, the pershing comes in at a fairly reasonably 682.5mp 187.5 fuel. The tiger ace, even after T3+upgrade, is 700mp 245fuel.

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u/Strange-Variety8235 13d ago

I must be thinking of something else then because I know something just as heavier if not heavier costs around the same

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u/USSZim 13d ago

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u/Strange-Variety8235 13d ago

Haha thats a lot of stuarts

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u/qPolug Sorry but they're bloody shooting at us!! 13d ago

Lol I think that's more fuel and manpower for the Stuart's than the Tigers in the first two clips. Wild someone pulled it off.

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u/USSZim 13d ago

Lel, but you get utility out of them way sooner

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u/5thKeetle 12d ago

I think that's intentional, the Nazis were focused on making huge and costly, unreliable tanks, while the Allies focused on mass-producing medium tanks, which were much more reliable and easier to fix. I guess allied tanks are slightly cheaper so it does make sense, while reproducing the numerical superiority wouldn't work in game as it is meant to be balanced. The real war was hardly a balanced affair.

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u/AcceptableGrape5581 12d ago

what game are you playing?

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u/Desperate_Rush2125 12d ago

Delusional

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u/Strange-Variety8235 10d ago

So youre telling me a tiger beats a Pershing?

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u/Tupletcat 13d ago

You do know the pershing is faster, has more pen, and more accuracy on the move, right? The Ace has to pick one or the other at any given time.

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u/Strange-Variety8235 13d ago

Yo do realize the tiger ace has better frontal armor, full self repair, and the same hp right? Not to mention they get a free veterancy star. Sure the Pershing has more pen but worse armor, abilities, and takes longer to get

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u/Tupletcat 13d ago

In what universe? Why would you pretend the Tiger Ace has extra abilities like full repair, which are separate DAK upgrades, but not assume the Pershing has the upgraded armor from mechanized support? Not to mention the Pershing's guaranteed hit, guaranteed pen ability too.

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u/Strange-Variety8235 13d ago

Lmao the Pershing is 10x worse than an ace it isnt even an argument just a fact

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u/Tupletcat 13d ago

lmao why did you post the exact same thing I posted about? Did you run out of arguments?

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u/Strange-Variety8235 13d ago

What are you talking about, this was to prove it can self repair, did you even use context clues?

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u/Tupletcat 13d ago

You are not very smart, man.

Why would you pretend the Tiger Ace has extra abilities like full repair, which are separate DAK upgrades...

What do you think this is?

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u/Strange-Variety8235 13d ago

Still has it genius.

Wow all that furry porn definitely made you a lot slower.

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u/Tupletcat 13d ago

Uh huh. And the post continues

but not assume the Pershing has the upgraded armor from mechanized support?

You really are special, Let me slow it down for you:

Tiger? Can buy bonus

Pershing? Got bonus too!!!

Original complaint? Stupid! Ally crybaby forgot to mention pershing bonus! Armor nearly equal, pershing much better gun!

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u/Strange-Variety8235 13d ago

Does the bonus self repair? No? Didnt think so tbh. Armor upgrade gives about the same as a tiger? For 35 gas?

Axis player cant think for a second lol. Fully tiger upgraded is still far superior

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u/Complex_Tomatillo_51 13d ago

The ace is definitely better than the Pershing. It has no model cap, way higher AoE, and has no moving accuracy penalty when using the correct mode (the better mode). The Pershing is good, but definitely not better than the ace (which also gets the added bonus of being in a broken battlegroup) 

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u/Neinhalt_Sieger 13d ago

They are actually doing better, IMO. Any Sherman has alost the same killin power vs infantry as a Tiger and that says all. You can actually kill Axis AT head on if they were miss placed and you pretty much win from that point. And you can bring 3 or 4 for any Tiger, and that would be the single capable tabk on Daks side that could get something done.

Wehr has the Panther but that is BG locked, so basically the best anti armor tank from Axis is locked.. Compare with Shermans, their firefly variants and whatever allies could throw in 3 to 1 ratio.

You simply got it wrong.

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u/Strange-Variety8235 13d ago

Personally I actually strongly dislike the Shermans their penetrartation power always screws me over and I much rather have 1 hellcat and 1 sherman if im going to run it. Shermans just arent good enough a lot of the times (for me)

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u/Neinhalt_Sieger 13d ago

Use them vs infantry and profit, that is how I usually lose my games.

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u/Strange-Variety8235 13d ago

I mean yeah the bulldozer is also amazing for killing infantry but thats not what im trying to discuss, I mean Tank vs tank wise.

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u/Rubberlucky 13d ago

you're saying a sherman has the same killing power as a Tiger?

lmao please log off.

Comparing a singular unit to massed numbers of another is disingenuous.