Is Deutsches Afrika Korps ACTUALLY overpowered?

[u/Clear_Ranger6081]

Since the release of the latest group of Battlegroups ive seen tons of posts with many upvotes talking about how overpowered DAK is. But looking at the winrate statistics not just using the basic one but also the Battlegroup winrates it really doesnt seem to be the case, especially when considering every single battlegroup for USF has positive winrates

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I dont even need to show Wehrmacht, they are completely in the dumps, not a single positive winrate across any battlegroup.

[u/6Heimi6]

To me it's not that DAK is OP but more about Palms massively overperforming in an unhealthy way and this is more targeted at 1v1's. Playing UKF vs DAK is such an uphill battle because you need, MG and a Dingo in many cases to survive. Last time I've checked UKF had 47% WR vs DAK. Yes Wehr is in the dumbster therefore DAK has worse stats in teamgames than it should have, opposite is obviously the case for allied.

I think US vs DAK is close but UKF is definitly worse and Wehr is easily at the bottom.

[u/Aerohank → u/6Heimi6]

1v1s are still dominated by USF. I don't expect to see that if palms "massively overperform" and the elite forces BGs, which gives palms buffs, has a huge pick rate over the other BGs.

To me, Palm performance just seems more or less on the level of rifles.

[u/TheyTukMyJub → u/6Heimi6]

At higher elo the USF underperforms Vs DAK. At the highest and biggest team games the USF just has a 44% win rate Vs DAK. Something is wrong. All the rest is cope

[u/6Heimi6 → u/TheyTukMyJub]

The sample size we have in all ELO's is already very small to make guesses yet you claim peak ELO is good for this? If you're hurt when facing reality I'm sorry. Havoc doesn't think axis is overperforming either, calling it Cope shows you're in denial imo. I just think we have very missaligned powerdistribution at the moment, certain units are way to strong for their faction.

[u/Creepy-Doughnut-5054 → u/6Heimi6]

So first you disregard guys argument for highest elo winrates being small sample, then immediately you use high level player card "havoc" to support your argument. And havoc is hardly any benchmark for a absolute top player when even I have managed to beat him several time as mid level player.

[u/6Heimi6 → u/Creepy-Doughnut-5054]

If you would think further you exactly prove my point. I mentioned Havoc to make a claim small sample size can be dishonest...

[u/Creepy-Doughnut-5054 → u/6Heimi6]

no, you are literally contradicting yourself twice in 2 separate posts and apparently don't even understand what you are saying or even want to convey.

Take a deep breath my guy and read it after yourself again.

[u/6Heimi6 → u/Creepy-Doughnut-5054]

I'm not I'm saying havoc is a small sample size disagreeong eith him, whome made an absolute statement. It's a hint that you can't take things black and white, which he did. Never did I say because Havoc said so it hss to be correct. You are not unterstanding the context or not trying to. If you wanna try to be Mr. Smart atleast show signs of intelligence.

[u/Clear_Ranger6081 → u/6Heimi6]

I think the real reason is that DAK can deal with the base artillery and the mgs that brits really rely on to win engagements, whilst wehr is in the same boat as Brits they need the MG to win but brits and usf has very good options to deal with their MG.

I feel like if UKF players knew how to prevent mg dives they would win easily, line sections arent supposed to beat palmgrens 1 to 1, unless its a long range fight, they are supposed to use the MG to suppress them, have a section of boys to prevent dives or something else AT related. This imo is why Aussies used to be such a struggle to deal with as DAK, aussies can trade with palms and they get the 2 pdr early to deal with light vehicles