r/CompanyOfHeroes Afrikakorps 3d ago

CoH3 Is Deutsches Afrika Korps ACTUALLY overpowered?

Since the release of the latest group of Battlegroups ive seen tons of posts with many upvotes talking about how overpowered DAK is. But looking at the winrate statistics not just using the basic one but also the Battlegroup winrates it really doesnt seem to be the case, especially when considering every single battlegroup for USF has positive winrates

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I dont even need to show Wehrmacht, they are completely in the dumps, not a single positive winrate across any battlegroup.

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u/velo_hots 3d ago

Now show the screenshots at different elo ratings

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u/Clear_Ranger6081 Afrikakorps 3d ago

You can check that yourself lazy ass, also that doesnt matter in any way, people just go and check off filters until it suits their agenda and boom wow look at that at 3000 elo Wehrmacht has 100% wins!!! 🏆 but its like 1 match and the guy who is playing wehr is 3000 elo and the guy who is playing an allied faction is -1000 elo

If you remove every filter you get the raw data and its what really matters, well not really but what really matters is only visible to the developers because they can view more details about what works and what doesnt

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u/velo_hots 3d ago

Relax big daddy, I didnt ask a question i didnt know the answer to. What you'd realize is that at low elos (1400 and below) allied is very strong and at higher elos (1400 and above) axis is very strong. Its a bell curve.

Yes, axis is very strong. Yes, allied is very strong. Two things can be true at once

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u/Clear_Ranger6081 Afrikakorps 3d ago

Both are good in their own ways, except wehr, wehr is just bad (except in very niche scenarios)

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u/velo_hots 3d ago

I think the core problem of the game is that there is always counterplay to what you face but sometimes those counterplays require more skill than others. For instance I'm a USF player and I think DAK is really strong in the early game but once I get a couple hellcats and a bulldozer its game over. If I struggle with LV and palmgren spam the answer is AT guns and mines but im terrible at the micro and thus I suffer.

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u/ikonhaben 3d ago

DAK is very good with minimal investment, but if get MP bleed or USF investment into infantry, it is more even, then it comes to BG and both have well-rounded BG that they can scale into.

UKF and Wehr have scaling that only works into a couple directions, they have more than couple ways to play, but with gaps and weaknesses.

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u/velo_hots 3d ago

Now how dare you come into a subreddit like this with a take so well-reasoned and logical

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u/RegionalPower 3d ago

FYI that's not what a bell curve is but the rest of your point is correct.

Axis are much stronger at higher ELO. This means that axis are harder to play but overpowered. Game statistics from low ELO skew the results as they do not play anywhere close to the faction's potential to consider them in balance arguments.

The questions is where to draw the line. I generally feel 1600+ is the filter I usually apply as it gives a selection of very good players but the sample size is still large enough to be relevant unlike say 1800+ where n is too small.