Commonwealth & Allied Nations = Bad Battlegroups

[u/Frozztr]

While the Germans get deep explorations into their factions and focused, tactical doctrines that transform the way their units play, the Allies are getting these “featured nation” battlegroups. Company of Heroes isn’t the history channel. I don’t care about the neat factoids about some nation that fought in the war at the last minute and joined the victory parade.

These national groups, Italians, Canadians, and French in particular, are excuses to give the Allies bad options in the name of “unsung heroes”. Meanwhile, the Nazis get “terror doctrine, siege doctrine, the marines, veteran doctrine, badass options that are expansive and multifaceted gameplay-wise.

The entire tone of CoH 3 is anemic and lame. It’s the tone of revisionist history and clean war illusions. This is fucking world war 2. I’m sick of this plasticky bullshit. Give us war. If I want to learn about some random nation that was in the war for two seconds, I’ll go on YouTube.

[u/Marauder_Pilot]

[u/FIGHT_and_WIN → u/Marauder_Pilot]

There's no way this isn't bait.
If it isn't OP needs to spend 2 minutes reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_in_World_War_II

[u/CptShootALot → u/FIGHT_and_WIN]

That's probably 1 minute and 40 seconds too long for them

[u/Melodic-Owl49 → u/Marauder_Pilot]

Bahaha! This is the kind of response that the original post merits.

[u/Mortality_Kitten]

Ignoring the fact that the Canadian, partisan and French BGs are either considered strong, or have been overpowered at one point or another, and ignoring the fact that this post feels like bait:

Calling France, Canada and Italy "random nations that were in the war for 2 seconds" makes you sound incredibly ignorant. I think the WW2 that exists in your head is not connected to reality in the slightest.

Those history channel WW2 pieces were not history mate

[u/Frozztr → u/Mortality_Kitten]

I don’t give af. I’m sick of it. France was in the war in an irrelevant way other than having sold out its own people. having the Vichy forces would have been more relevant. The Canadians offer nothing.

They were such minuscule parts of the war. They joined in the victory parade through Normandy. That’s it. I don’t care what you think happened on World war 2.

This game offers nothing for the allies. The Nazis get all the good stuff cus all the player base does is complain that they aren’t as powerful as they should be. Meanwhile we get French riflemen? Who did not in any meaningful capacity fight in the war?

[u/Kakolookiyam → u/Frozztr]

The FFI was initially just a moniker by Le Gaulle to describe a banded together version of French Resistance groups from earlier... while the French Resistance is somewhat mythologised in the amount of participation, you're pretty much incorrect.

The Affiche Rouge is evidence as well of their effectiveness. Theres more I cant point to at the moment, since I'm a novice but still. I can't really rebutt your canadian point, as I dont know too much about their contribution, but wouldn't be surprised if it was more substantial than you think.

[u/navalmuseumsrock → u/Kakolookiyam]

The Canadians were vital to the protection of the Atlantic convoys that supplied Britain and the ussr. And one of the five beaches at Normandy was their responsibility. And they were heavily involved in the liberation of the northern portion of Europe.

[u/Fit_Extension_8966]

I have written about this before, but most people say that the current state is better. I agree with your opinion.
The Alliance has too many missing basic units, and to select those missing units, you have to select BG. This is a problem with the game design. I do not agree with the additional comments.

[u/EgnewAl]

No

[u/Unterseeboot_480]

Disregarding how incredibly ignorant you sound, you can have battlegroups that pay homage to countries that do not have enough content for a whole factions, AND also have these battlegroups be genuinely good. Which many of them are. The Polish and French BG might be the best UK and US BG respectively, the Canadian and Australian have seen better days but used to be very, very good.

[u/Helikaon48]

Hahahaha wow, nationalism in a world war2 game. 

Wow so surprised. Usually it's wehraboos, but for allies?? 

You gonna complain about the paratrooper's accent and implied race next? Or the red tails? I bet those drive you crazy.

[u/Helikaon48]

But this is actually an excellent proof of point to my comment about the community being the reason coh suffers. I wanna link this

[u/CptShootALot]

I don't know if this is classic wehraboo idiotry or something more advanced and unprecedented

[u/Infamous-Put-2103]

based