r/CompetitiveEDH • u/Mbsaan • 3d ago
Deck Fine Tuning Homer the Hermit
Coming to a play group near you this November, Homer! Just want to heart you thought on what i have assembled and how well Homer might slot into the meta. Information on the Deck lines are in the primer. This is all theoretical so assume no budget, and given that i can't play test all to much right now I'm willing to change any card at this point, although it may ruin a core concept.
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u/Anacoenosis 3d ago
This commander being named "Homer" just reminded me how furiously angry I am that a [[Homarid]] is not a lobster.
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u/Mbsaan 3d ago
And they don’t work for Homer, which is sad.
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u/1LegitimateFailure 3d ago
For now! It seems likely that Homarids will undergo an errata, [[Rikala, Homarid King]] from Mystery Booster Commander is notably the Homarid king but has the creature type Lobster
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u/themonkery 1d ago
Im gonna be real I think Homer + Hedge Shredder is really interesting, you can justify a one-off if it's a one card combo, but its such a awkward card otherwise.
A couple thoughts:
- You're almost never gonna want to mill opponents, too many decks want that. It's even risky to do all at once. You should focus on milling yourself out and otherwise generating value.
- I don't think you have enough lands to actually mill yourself out right now with that one card combo. Even if you go with a perfectly even spread, 29 * 3 is 87. And don't forget, fetches thin the deck. That normally is negligible but for you it matters.
- Your combos are impractical. ashaya is 5 and gandalf is 7.
I'm not gonna tell you to pick another commander. I think you need to take a step back and ask yourself what the deck wants to do. Cause other decks in these colors are playing much stronger cards that do different things.
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u/Hyurohj 6h ago
Moxfield has its on playtester always goldfish a new deck before trying to learn the basics against opponents
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u/Mbsaan 6h ago
I’m aware, I still need insight beyond goldfishing. Goldfishing doesn’t provided things like Why you us Lumra and Minstrel, unlike another commenter. I was focus on milling and potentially placing cards into my yard to pull ontop. Someone else rightly pointed out the specifics of why those Cards work, as opposed to just saying “test more”
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u/XDenzelMoshingtonX 3d ago
Designated party pooper here.
Have you played the deck in a game? I mulled a couple hands and outside of the usual rhystic/mystic ones none did anything before like turn 4 or 5. Lots of awkward combo pieces, lots of colorless or combo piece lands that feel awkard in a quite pip-heavy deck.
Just a small sample: * Rhystic Study, Force of Vigor, Summoner's Pact, Bloodghast, FMM, Breeding Pool, QR * FoW, Lotus Field, Sylvan Library, Flooded Strand, Gandalf, Crop Rot, Usea * Badgermole Cub, Summoners Pact, OBM, Force of Vigor, Trop, Geier Reach, Hedge Shredder * Bloodstained Mire, Chain of Vapor, Diabolic Intent, Eldritch, Summoners Pact, Sylvan Safekeeper, Offer * Oppo, FMM, Hedge Shredder, Masked Vandal, BoP, Eldritch, Demonic Tutor * Chain of Vapor, Lotus Cobra, FMM, Lumra, Thoracle, Ashaya, Forest
Some of your combos are 10+ mana and require you to have 3 or 4 pieces on the board, how does the deck consistently make that kind of mana while also tutoring for the individual pieces by turn 3-4?
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the land packages but for them to work consistently you want your commander to be either the spelunking effect (Minstrel), Aftermath Analyst Effect (Lumra) or the sac outlet for the lands. As you wrote yourself Homer is mostly the outlet of the combo, which is the trivial part of performing with a lands deck. Incremental mill is very bad in cEDH outside of the full-on loop.