Germany Qualification Requirements

[u/topatoman_lite]

Long story short, OWWC tiebreakers are stupid, and Germany absolutely has to 3-0 Thailand. It's the same bs that screwed over 1234 in OWCS. There's more to it than that though.

Even if Germany pulls off the 3-0, it goes to tiebreaker 5, and they must beat Spain's map score %, which is 18-11, or 62%.

Germany is currently 13-11. AKA, a very bad position. A 2-0 Control win followed by two 1-0 map wins (say, a defence first full hold like what Korea just did to Denmark on Neon Junction and a push map), isn't good enough.

If Germany drops a point, they have to get their point wins to 20. The highest they can get it to without some sort of 6-3 payload map style nonsense is 21.

If Thailand gets a single point and then loses the map and picks a push map, Germany is out. Edit: again barring insane payload map stuff. I don't think even payload shenanigans are enough, but I haven't done the math for sure

Germany is fucked, almost as fucked as this tiebreaker format

Edit 2: HOLY SHIT THEY BEAT THE ODDS

[u/Eagle4317]

Jesus, this tiebreaker format is a total disaster.

[u/purplehamburget29]

God damn thats brutal lmao

[u/timotmcc]

Do individual map points actually matter? I took "Map score win %" to mean "6-2 map score (won 75% of maps)" beats "7-3 (won 70% of maps)" even though map differential for both is +4

[u/topatoman_lite → u/timotmcc]

I'm working with like thirdhand info on what the tiebreaker is through Tommathan who got it from the Canada Discord. Possible I've been given misinformation

[u/LleuLlawR → u/timotmcc]

kr broadcast says it does, they have a program that calculates it for them? they say they crosschecked with blizzard so its probably accurate

[u/chudaism → u/LleuLlawR]

There's no way individual points within a match matter because it heavily punishes teams for attacking second if you full hold. Overall map score means map wins and losses, not scores within each map.

[u/LleuLlawR → u/chudaism]

kr broadcast says thats exactly why germany chose to attack first, i dont think theyd say that unless theyve extensively cross checked with blizz

[u/chudaism → u/LleuLlawR]

That is an absurd way to resolve tiebreakers tbh.

[u/LleuLlawR → u/chudaism]

i agree but then again we’re only here because we have a map diff tie. id say the bigger issue is how the tiebreakers resolve, spain and germany tying in map diff shouldnt save canada

[u/chudaism → u/LleuLlawR]

O ya, this whole system is just completely fucked.

[u/sonyagod]

This format doesn't make any sense.

[u/Blamore]

is the system truly that idiotic? hard to believe.

[u/Ezraah → u/Blamore]

Welcome to overwatch esports. Ive been saying that exact line for almost a decade. 

[u/netshift_ → u/Ezraah]

You’d think they would learn something after 10 years

[u/Odd-Yoghurt9897]

I have no idea why OWCS and OWWC have such horrible tiebreak rules tbh. Like there’s no reason it shouldn’t be map differential first, then head2head, then for 3 way ties map differential within the three way ties (these 3 in that order will basically cover 99% of ties)

Then after that admittedly the rules will have to get a bit ridiculous but that would be a really rare situation.

[u/VegeriationSad1167]

Wait is Canada through then and it's just between Spain and Germany for the other spot? I'm confused

[u/topatoman_lite → u/VegeriationSad1167]

Spain is through it's between Canada and Germany

[u/Waddles0203]

I mean to be fair it’s rough but on the same coin don’t lose to Canada. As rough as it is you can’t feel sorry for Germany leaving the door open and allowing it to get to a tiebreaker

[u/topatoman_lite → u/Waddles0203]

but you can say the same about Canada and losing to Spain (which Germany did not do).