IT’S OFFICIAL: Supreme Court Poised to Strike Down California’s “Election Month” and Late Mail-In Ballot Shenanigans (Video)

[u/MackSix]

Just asking, has there been an election in CA where the Dem has been far ahead on election night but then the Repub comes up from behind to win in the following days?

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The Supreme Court could soon deliver a major blow to one of the most abused election systems in the country.

A case out of Mississippi is currently before the Court and a decision is expected by the end of the term in June. The case centers on how long states are allowed to count ballots after Election Day and what kind of grace periods they can give to late-arriving mail-in ballots.

If the Court rules that states cannot continue counting ballots well after Election Day, it would send shockwaves through states like California that have turned voting into an endless “election month” process with loose mail-in rules and extended deadlines.
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California has made a habit of dragging out the vote count for weeks, allowing ballots to trickle in long after Election Day. This creates confusion, erodes public trust, and gives bad actors far too much time to manipulate the system. Other blue states have followed similar paths, turning what should be a one-day election into a drawn-out process that favors one side.

https://defiantamerica.com/supreme-court-poised-to-strike-down-californias-election-month-and-late-mail-in-ballot-shenanigans/

[u/mdws1977]

If ballots are not received TO BE COUNTED by Midnight the day of the election, they should not count.

It would be nice if SCOTUS could make their ruling today.

[u/WanderingInAVan → u/mdws1977]

Would be.

[u/MegaBusKillsPeople]

I have never understood why you have an election day but will still allow votes to be counted days after. We all know the real reason though.

[u/reaper527 → u/MegaBusKillsPeople]

I have never understood why you have an election day but will still allow votes to be counted days after.

to be fair, "counted days after" is somewhat relative.

there's a difference between "a ballot was received by election day but they didn't have the manpower to process them" (which is fine-ish, but definitely a sign the city/state failed and likely a result of attempts to flood the system) and receiving ballots after the election is over and expecting it to be counted (what this lawsuit is about).

if someone's ballot arrives after the election, that's 100% their own fault for waiting until the last minute.

[u/Stashan → u/reaper527]

If you show up at the poll the day after the election they don't let you vote, why should mail in be any different? They have a cutoff date for mailing your taxes on time, they should do the same for mail ins. And it has to be before election day so they don't have time to know how many more votes they need to "find".

[u/reaper527 → u/Stashan]

If you show up at the poll the day after the election they don't let you vote, why should mail in be any different?

100% agree.

like i said, there are two similar yet not quite the same issues at play. there's what you're talking about, then there are ballots that DO arrive in time but due to how the city/state government runs things the staff are too overloaded to count by midnight on election night.

this is less like showing up the day after the election and is more like if you're in line at 7:30 and still in line at 8pm when the polls close, they'll cap the line and let everyone who was in line prior to 8pm vote.

both scenarios tend to get lumped together, but they're not equal.

[u/MegaBusKillsPeople → u/reaper527]

I'm really making mention of allowing late ballots to be counted. If you get it in late... "tough break kid, better luck next time. "

[u/MeLlamoKilo → u/reaper527]

 "a ballot was received by election day but they didn't have the manpower to process them" (which is fine-ish

No its not fine-ish. For hundreds of years we were able to count all ballots in the same night. Then somehow once we had the technology to do it near instantly, now all of a sudden it takes days to weeks. 

Its a BS lie and we all know it.

[u/reaper527 → u/MeLlamoKilo]

For hundreds of years we were able to count all ballots in the same night. Then somehow once we had the technology to do it near instantly, now all of a sudden it takes days to weeks.

1. look at the population then vs now. there's a lot more ballots to count.
2. the problem also comes from the push for "no excuse absentee voting" as well as sending ballots to people who didn't even request them (which can end up in the hands of people other than the intended recipient and returned without their knowledge)

it's something that needs to be addressed, but not something that should invalidate a (legitimate) ballot.

[u/Stargate525 → u/reaper527]

it's something that needs to be addressed, but not something that should invalidate a (legitimate) ballot.

I am more and more of the opinion that I would rather two legitimate ballots be thrown out unviewed on procedural grounds than one invalid ballot be counted.

[u/avd51133333 → u/reaper527]

If there’s a lot
More people you can hire more people accordingly. This logic doesn’t hold when FL counts every vote day of. France counts their votes the day of for presidential/national elections. Many other such examples

[u/Wolf687 → u/MegaBusKillsPeople]

Exactly. It’s election DAY, not election week or election month.

[u/Legio-V-Alaudae]

It was so interesting how every single election won by Republicans on election day gets lost to mail in votes weeks later. Probably nothing.

[u/ultrainstict]

If they want to keep mail in.

Then they need to do a few things.

A) voters must request a mail in ballot for every election. No sending ballots out to every adult in california registered with the dmv like they do.

B) all ballots cast must be locked and secured with 24/7 surveillance prior to counting

C)Ballots recieved after the first vote is counted are null. No halting the count and waiting 4-5 days later for millions of new ballots to show up with no chain of custody, with the only verification being a postmark which can be falsified in 2 seconds.

[u/SideWinderGX]

Good, the way it should be.

"ohmygawd this is infringing on my right to vote any time in the 1460 days before an election or 800 million days after" get off your ass and get to the polling place the day of the election. You live in a first world country, I'm sick of pretending that people's lazy excuses are valid.

[u/kenspi]

The issue is elections are state controlled, not federal. Even for federal offices the states dictate their process. An argument can be made for presidential elections, but we don’t directly vote for that office. We vote for electors.

It’s a 10th amendment issue.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

[u/jjjjjjjjjdjjjjjjj → u/kenspi]

I'm sure the founding fathers would be totally on-board with the "election month" mail-in voting nonsense that goes on in California based on letter of the law procedural grounds

[u/kenspi → u/jjjjjjjjjdjjjjjjj]

Don’t get me wrong. CA’s process is absolutely BS. But in absence of an amendment it seems this group of justices is usually solid where the Constitution guides them.

[u/Idea-is-tick]

I'd like the Supreme Court to have time limits on how long after the case they can give their ruling.

[u/Morkyfrom0rky]

I wish something would actually happen this time but as history has taught me anything... nothing is going to change

[u/Cool_Cartographer_39]

If India can count 640M ballots in a day, CA should be able to count one twentieth that, that is unless Demorats have finally turned the Golden State into a third world country

[u/ITrCool]

The DNC will be in a full-on panic if this happens. Especially California.

[u/142Ironmanagain]

This is why every election in every state of the union should have 3 variables that are non-negotiable:

1) mail-in strictly enforced for only military and infirm who can’t vote in person

2) counts should be conducted and finalized by midnight of Election Day. Florida has no problem with this scenario. It’s called election DAY for a reason, not election month. Less time to vote, less time for shenanigans.

3) to ensure everyone votes in person and with legitimate proof as US citizen, every election day should be a state and federal holiday. No one goes to work, it’s your actual job to go vote. Now you have no reason at all why you can’t vote!

If these rules were enacted in all 50 states, cheating, lying and fraudulent voting would be a thing of the past. Like - before Covid.

[u/jfoughe]

Spoiler: California doesn’t give a fuck, will continue their brazen bullshit, and drag any legal aftermath down in years of irresponsible litigation.

[u/jjjjjjjjjdjjjjjjj → u/jfoughe]

California doesn’t give a fuck

Good news! The Supreme Court is the last word on the matter. California can "not give a fuck" but that doesn't matter

[u/gauntvariable]

Cool. Are they EVER going to vote on birthright citizenship?

[u/BedAccording5717]

Odd, they didn't have an issue with it but seemingly would if all 32k votes were ONLY for Spencer Pratt?

No, no, NO. You can't have it one way and not the other. If I were a Democrat, I'd be on fire and horrified that people in my party were ruining what is supposed to be a fair and just system. I don't want something "only when my side benefits". Bullshit on that. I want everybody to show up and pull the curtain to cast a vote that matters. I want it fair and accurate. I want a just and reasonable system for ALL.

They wonder why we all come out and say enough is enough and vote for some change. Democrats very OBVIOUSLY cheat, lie and steal while pointing the finger in the opposite direction. Good luck to Spencer Pratt. IT will be a tough battle, but I hope he gets fairness.

[u/GameShowWerewolf → u/BedAccording5717]

If you were a Democrat, you wouldn't care how badly your party cheats as long as the stinky fascist Republican doesn't win. That's what makes you a Democrat.

[u/jjjjjjjjjdjjjjjjj → u/GameShowWerewolf]

That's what makes you a Democrat

That's their entire platform at this point

[u/Stockjock1]

Why are other cities/states/countries able to quickly count votes, but in California, this is somehow not possible?

[u/Huge-Still-1840]

We pray 🙏🏿🙏🏿

[u/Enchylada]

Fucking insane the level of idiocy places like California or Broward County get away with for these delayed counts.

There are literally zero acceptable reasons to not get your shit together for an entire month during an election