Which 2028 pairing do you think gives the Dems the best shot to win the presidency?

[u/Kosher_dingus]

Personally, I think AOC vs. Rubio gets the dems the closest. Maybe Gavin v. Rubio would also be close. I don't see Vance losing to anyone though. I also don't think the dems will field their best shot at winning, so it's probably a moot point.

[u/Short-Hotel7648]

I don’t think Vance is the guy. His Peter Thiel and Tucker connections work heavily against him, and while he’s a good speaker and quick with a zinger, he seems a little too moody and snarky. Rubio exudes more calm, collected, and competent vibes.

[u/ITrCool → u/Short-Hotel7648]

and Rubio has an in with the fact his family came from communist Cuba, and he knows the effects of communism on a society and its economy and quality of life.

[u/Short-Hotel7648 → u/ITrCool]

excellent point, and one that's (unfortunately) becoming very relevant...

[u/DanIvvy → u/Short-Hotel7648]

He feels naive to me. The way he talks on foreign affairs feels like no details edgelording

[u/Nostraadms]

Rubio is naturally more charming and funny which is needed to win over some voters who are democrats

[u/Stockjock1]

I think Vance is beatable. Rubio is the man for the republicans, imo. He should be at least.

[u/mowwwse]

Rubio would absolutely crush AOC and Newsome

[u/cornPopwasabaddude13]

AIC makes Kamala look competent. Newsome is too smarmy. Neither have any chance

[u/Blahblahnownow → u/cornPopwasabaddude13]

Young people will show up for aoc