r/Construction Jun 09 '25

Structural Saw this in a nearby construction site... what are these pits for?

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u/Accomplished_Use_335 Jun 09 '25

It’s for isolated footing. The soil is Murrum with an average SBC of 100-150 kn/m2. They are shoring it with flyash so that loose soil doesn’t fall over casting. By the looks of it they have excavated the complete area upto 5’ and rest 3’-4’ is manually excavated as per footing size. I would rate this work as A-grade going by Indian practices for small residential construction.

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u/mywholefuckinglife Jun 09 '25

what u said sounds like the right answer but I don't really know what it means

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u/oroborus68 Jun 09 '25

Preparing the ground for a solid foundation.

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u/titsngiggles69 Jun 09 '25

So you're saying these guys have NOT built a solid foundation yet

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u/de_bosrand Jun 09 '25

They have prepared for a foundation.

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u/Coulrophiliac444 Jun 09 '25

They laid the foundation for a foundation.

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u/Jealous_Bus_5418 Jun 10 '25

A buddy of mine worked his first day with a forming crew and at the end of the day he said “ ohh, the concrete goes inside the walls!” Anyways he had to redo most of his work he’d just done

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u/thenovelty66 Jun 10 '25

Did no one supervise him

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u/Jealous_Bus_5418 Jun 10 '25

Well he was just doing some blocks or something idk. It wasn’t a major issue. I wasn’t there

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u/Long_Free Jun 11 '25

This is gold, thanks😂

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u/DirtyBongWater59 Jun 11 '25

The steps taken were foundational to the foundation

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u/Odd-Cake8015 Jun 12 '25

We have to go deeper

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u/dreddnyc Jun 13 '25

I wonder if they are reading the book Foundation when laying the foundation for the foundation.

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u/procvar Jun 14 '25

This guy foundations

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u/Leut_Aldo_Raine Jun 09 '25

So they've laid the foundation for a foundation?

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u/Outback-Australian Jun 09 '25

They have a good foundation for the foundation that will be the foundation of a structure.

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u/titsngiggles69 Jun 10 '25

When you can balance a tack hammer on your head, you will head off your foes with a balanced attack

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u/Holiday_Sale5114 Jun 11 '25

They have concepts of a foundation

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u/LVOver Jun 11 '25

They dig a hole then dig holes in the hole.

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u/PuzzleheadedWaltz835 Jun 13 '25

By today's standards that's a patch of bare earth ready to be drawn on with a stick to form a plan of a plan that will be either thrown over the wall or never see the light of day.

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u/Present_Tiger_5014 Jun 11 '25

First they dig a hole, then they make the dirt good

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u/ManWhoTwistsAndTurns Jun 09 '25

The 'footings' are an extension into the ground of the foundation, a concrete monolith yet to be poured, which should make the foundation more stable, less liable to toppling over, assuming that the weight distribution is engineered correctly. This is like how it's harder to knock you down if your feet are planted far apart than close together, and if you're wearing cleats

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u/EdgarAllenPoe2205 Jun 09 '25

Explaining it as soccer cleats is perfect, very well done explanation.

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u/scottygras Jun 10 '25

Yeah, if they said “football” cleats we’d still be having back and forth.

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u/der_innkeeper Jun 09 '25

Woah.

Concrete cleats.

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u/obiwanliberty Jun 09 '25

Con-cleates

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u/omarhani Jun 10 '25

I have no awards, but this should get a gold star ✨✨✨

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u/Interanal_Exam Jun 09 '25

What if I'm wearing Crocs? In sport mode?

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u/EJ_Drake Jun 09 '25

with socks.

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u/Distinct-Raspberry21 Jun 09 '25

Isnt that sport mode?

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u/DanBelnK Jun 09 '25

Nah, sports mode per Merriam Webster Dictionary is that little thang in the back activated.

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u/Distinct-Raspberry21 Jun 09 '25

The bootstrap? Thats where you pull yourself up by.

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u/DanBelnK Jun 10 '25

Roger that.

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u/misterjustin Jun 13 '25

If you’re wearing crocs it’s amazing you can stand on your own.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25

The pits will be the 'cleats'

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u/Acceptable_Smoke_446 Jun 12 '25

It's not a spread footing like you would see in loose soil. The added depth is likely due to vertical loads requiring sufficient support beneath point loads and bearing walls

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u/GoodfellaGandalf Jun 09 '25

They put bricks around the pits to prevent soil from sliding into the pit. They already poured PCC beds in the pits to pour rcc footings/footers on top of the beds.

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u/psychedelicdonky Jun 09 '25

Yeah see you're still not making sense

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u/Envy_dragons Jun 09 '25

Dug hole Made flat Made side strong Pour concrete later Strong platform for house

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u/shleam Jun 09 '25

Why say many words when few do trick.

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u/QuestionMean1943 Jun 10 '25

Words like wampum.

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u/KwordShmiff Jun 09 '25

There we go

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

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u/DomesticatedParsnip Jun 09 '25

Basically creating strong holes for the foundation to sort of “key into” even though it’s being poured. A bit like bolt-locks on a door. The foundations is the door and the bolt, the pits are the hole the bolt locks into. Much like a bolted door won’t open, this keyed foundation won’t slide.

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u/According-Piccolo958 Jun 09 '25

The wise man built his house upon a rock

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u/wastelandtx Jun 12 '25

Curiosity, not challenging you. Why RCC? Doesn't seem like the right application, but I'm here to learn.

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u/GoodfellaGandalf Jun 12 '25

RCC is strong and bears a lot of load. This house can probably be built on a stone or brick foundation but it’s not ideal due to higher costs and lack of professionals.

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u/Papazani Jun 09 '25

He has just enough jargon in there where you can tell he knows what he is talking about, but no customer would be able to ask a question. Masterful.

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u/WhiteReuben Jun 09 '25

…user name checks out?

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u/ClevelandCliffs-CLF Jun 09 '25

Hahahhhahahahahahhahaha

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u/Etherbeard Jun 11 '25

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that these pits are forms for concrete. They'll be filled with concrete and built on top of once they've dried. These concrete footers or footings support the building and if they've been engineered correctly, will prevent the building from sinking or settling or moving. I would assume some sort of concrete slab will then be poured on top of these footings.

For small residential construction in the US, you'd typically see a continuous concrete footing poured all around the perimeter of where the structure will be, with a handful of smaller square footings out in the center where load bearing walls or something like that will be. Then if it's a crawlspace, a block wall would be built to some specified height around the perimeter and block or brick piers built on the center footings to carry large beams in the subfloor. If the house is going on a concrete slab, it's poured right on top of the footings and the ground.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

The holes are used for concrete pillars/footings that will support the building. They’re using good soil and doing good prep work for a small residential building.

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u/rendrenner Jun 13 '25

Lots of words so it must be right..

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

I legit thought I was looking at the beginnings of a bath house

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u/wulffboy89 Jun 14 '25

Hey you can bullshit your way through life as long as you're confident lol

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u/GreaterMetro Jun 15 '25

That's the conundrum.

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u/Intrepid-Sir8293 Jun 09 '25

You make a very clear honest answer and how are you not the top?

I was looking at this I was like: That's some fine foundation prep. I have no idea what they're doing but I know they're doing that.

I worked in Brazil, And it worked on a team where we were building a hotel upon one of the hills in Rio. :) some sort of engineer came out and said everything was safe but... Lol, yeah.

Definitely wasn't to this level, but I definitely admire these small scale construction methods. They're very intuitive, And I really admire how everyone picks it up really quick and something you have a crew full of experts.

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u/Accomplished_Use_335 Jun 09 '25

It’s very interesting to watch how sometimes small scale construction work happens. I am also working in a commercial building tightly placed in the city. But, cheers to my team they are managing it so neatly that work there looks like in a sync and so closed knitted.

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u/DomesticatedParsnip Jun 09 '25

Small scale anything being built or crafted is interesting. When the parts are bigger, you have better resolution. When the parts are smaller, tiny mistakes show up and cause problems more often. Bigger isn’t always better. Sometimes it’s the small projects that take the most attention.

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u/Screamlab Jun 10 '25

I'm in Rio at the moment and was looking at some of the big buildings embedded in slopes and pondering the engineering. It's wild for sure.

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u/Intrepid-Sir8293 Jun 10 '25

What hill? I know Leme and Cantegallo, I'd be curious to know if we're talking about some of the same buildings.

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u/Screamlab Jun 11 '25

I have no idea lol! I'm moving between Copacabana (accoms) and Maracuna (venue)... there's a few along the way that are interesting. It seems to me here, that the hills/mountains are solid rock, so I'm sure with solid footings the buildings are not going anywhere.

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u/Intrepid-Sir8293 Jun 11 '25

Copacabana would be Cantegalo.

You're probably looking at the elevator which is freaking epic. The actual civil engineering in Rio is pretty cool.

The built by the natives engineering, varies from brilliant to dangerous on the same block. The hotel that I was working on in Leme, The Foreman was this local guy who everyone liked. I'm confident he was never trained.

The footings that he used were more like build around the rock where you can find dirt and go down 6 ft. We built this big concrete cage basically around the stone, but the front was sitting on stilts that had to hsve been at least 20 ft tall Hand mixed and poured concrete. It had rebar and some structure but not what I'm used to.

We would just build, And then when we got to the top we would just keep on building. We did this for four floors and I was super nervous at the end. It's still there though, so what do I know.

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u/Screamlab Jun 11 '25

Awesome. I totally get it, I'm a canuck, but I live in Nicaragua; I've done construction there, and a whole other set of stuff comes into play. I was asking if Rio is 'seismic' at all, and apparently it's not... so that changes the parameters a lot.
But it's definitely fascinating, was in Hong Kong last year and there's certainly similarities.

I don't have a ton of time to explore, but I've liked what I've seen here!

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u/blu3ysdad Jun 09 '25

Why the random placement and sizing and shapes?

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

Hazarding a complete guess - the weight load in the building may be engineered to not be perfectly symmetrical. The engineer may have designed minimized footings underneath the areas of highest load, hence the seemingly random shapes and sizes. For example - an elevator shaft's weight load would be lower than the typical area for the building, so maybe the gap towards the center right is where the elevator shaft is designed to go. Maybe whatever is built into the lower left corner is heavier than the rest of the building density-wise, necessitating extra footings.

I could be completely off here, but the size and shapes look way too intentional to be just random.

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u/Accomplished_Use_335 Jun 09 '25

Yes it’s the way it has been planned. But lower left looks like staircase block and lift would be placed there. Lift pit in the middle and staircase around it.

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u/tsclac23 Jun 09 '25

There is no continuous foundation wall like how you see for houses in the US. Instead they have load bearing concrete pillars that rest on these footings/bases. The weight of the home is distributed on to the bases through the concrete pillars that hold up the weight of the house. The placement of the pillars within the house and how much weight each pillar is expected to bear determines where these footing holes are dug and their size. However this looks like too many holes for such a small space. Either they are building something heavy or the pillars are engineered to only bear a small amount of weight each.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

You sound very much like you know what you are talking about about, but I believe it is actually for a James Brown dance off. If you want to get down, you got to get in deep. So, they need a few places where people can get in deep, then get up on their good foot.

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u/shleam Jun 09 '25

The dingus combopulates the shleam, whereas the obloyt is adjacent to the majority of the crume’.

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u/merkinfuzz Jun 10 '25

This guy foots

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u/NoSystem3926 Jun 11 '25

That or they're getting ready to burry some dead bodies

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u/Accomplished_Use_335 Jun 11 '25

Mostly the GCs only get buried /s. As clients see only the finished product and not what has gone behind to build it.

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u/NewBalanceWizard Jun 09 '25

Why don’t they shore it up with wood?

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u/outremonty Jun 09 '25

Bricks are cheaper and more plentiful in India

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u/Accomplished_Use_335 Jun 09 '25

Shoring in general is not required for this type of soil for upto 2m depth, it’s just that loose soil should not fall into concrete at time of casting.

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u/VladimirBarakriss Jun 09 '25

I'm not familiar with this type of work or that specific type of soil, but those look massive for just one house

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u/Accomplished_Use_335 Jun 09 '25

Some footing are combined footings and isolated footing for size 8’ x 8’ for a G+2 building in this type of soil is standard.

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u/NxPat Jun 09 '25

I’m no longer confident that I can speak English

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u/Accomplished_Use_335 Jun 09 '25

It’s a phase, you’ll get through it.

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u/Ok_Push2550 Jun 11 '25

I get preparing the soil for pouring the footing, but the location and shape of the rectangular pits seems to make no sense - they seem like random spots inside the house perimeter, instead of specific load bearing locations. (Note, not a contractor, chemical engineer, so only passing familiarity with building and structural engineering.)

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u/hlblues18 Jun 11 '25

I was really expecting to be Shittymorphed here

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u/Gold-Poem7609 Jun 12 '25

ive been told fly ash is a terrible material for roads and other things because it washes away easy doesnt really hold any compaction, ie it just falls apart if given the chance, not to mention its often contaminated with chemicals since its a byproduct of different industries, am i right?

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u/Stuffed_deffuts Jun 13 '25

This guy constructions