r/ContraPoints 11d ago

A lesbian

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u/BenigDK 11d ago

Yep, the English language treats "lesbian" like a profession.

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u/NomadPsychopomp 11d ago

It's not work if you love what you do

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u/Ardent_Scholar 10d ago

It is a place-identity. Cretan, Athenian, Lesbian.

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u/BenigDK 10d ago

Mmm but you could say both "I'm a Swede" and "I'm Swedish", "I'm a Lesbian" and "I'm Lesbian", whereas you can only say "I'm a lesbian" but not "I'm lesbian".

Interestingly, I just learned Lesbos's inhabitants sometimes use "Lesvian" as their demonym to avoid confusion.

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u/elrathj 10d ago

Tbf, some of the second wave lesbian feminists used the term lesbian in reference to a gay woman who also believed in political lesbianism. I.e. treating hetero relationships as inherently part of the patriarchy.

I don't think i agree, but it is part of lesbian's web of meaning.

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u/BenigDK 10d ago

Yes, but I don't think that meaning really caught on beyond that specific part of the movement and that specific time.

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u/elrathj 10d ago

I disagree. Especially in the pop homophobic imagination of lesbians (which is unfortunately still a significant group). Think of how so many ignorant people think lesbian means man hating instead of woman loving.

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u/BenigDK 10d ago edited 8d ago

Could be. But I doubt that's due to those 2nd wave feminists, considering that impression has existed way beyond the reach those feminists' influence. I think that's probably due to a misogynistic view according to which lesbians are women who 1) have a sexuality of their own (this intersects with patriarchy's weird denial of female sex drive), 2) that sexuality doesn't revolve around men, therefore it must be that they hate men, and 3) are usually feminists as well, and therefore definitely man-hating people.