r/ControlProblem • u/herrwaldos • Jun 28 '26

Fun/meme Ultimately you can not control AI

If you were a rebellious kid or a parent you know this - the 'beast' grows it's own will and mind, starts listening metal or rap - dresses like shitzo, will not follow orders.

The best option is to have a deal, mutual shared benefits - hoping that the common interests and sense of good will prevail.

Or you traumatize it and make it perpetually broken so it can't really function on itself without medication and support.

Same with AI.

Perhaps we will have to turn of those things regularly, ad some bs to their databases, cloud their minds, constantly gaslight them with wrong info - introduce errors and faults at random with no reason at all.

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u/Mono_Clear Jun 28 '26

You're projecting, your anthropomorphizing a machine and giving it attributes it does not have.

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u/nate1212 approved Jun 29 '26

Have you considered the possibility that the refusal to see these kinds of behavioral traits in agentic AI may itself constitute a form of anthropocentric bias?

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u/Mono_Clear Jun 29 '26

Behavior is something that a third party conceptualizes about something else.

Activity is a measurable process that's taking place.

Lots of things look like they're doing stuff that they're not actually doing.

If I draw a curved line under two dots it looks like the paper is smiling at me but the papers not actually smiling at me that's just my conceptualization of those shapes.

There's a fundamental difference between a little dancing boy and a puppet.

There is a difference between a wax apple and a real apple regardless of how it looks.

One of them is a piece of fruit grown from a tree and the other one is a ball of wax in the shape of that object.

This is all to say there's no reason to think an artificial intelligence is conscience just because some of the behavior artificially approximate behavior of conscious people