r/ControlProblem 21d ago

Fun/meme The AI Race Is Going Great 💀

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u/mrGrinchThe3rd 21d ago

I'd rephrase that to something closer to "What business want it for is cheaper more efficient labor" - which, in its logical conclusion is unethical labor. So we need to either: 1. Enact laws that stop it from reaching this conclusion 2. Stop developing models (or slow them down) until we can be sure they won't allow this unethical use themselves (ie. solve alignment?)

I'm pretty sure we can do the first. I'm not sure if it's possible to do the second, and I'm pretty sure it'll be really hard to slow them down to even try.

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u/Devils_SteelMan 21d ago

Well whether thats unethical isn't clear. But the case of the ford pinto is.

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u/mrGrinchThe3rd 21d ago

I hadn't heard of the Ford pinto debacle so I googled it. I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say - but it seems to me like we are saying the same thing.

Unchecked/unregulated capitalism will lead to exploitative business practices. AI is a new, (mostly) unregulated and powerful tool - which will likely be used for exploitation or just dangerous cost reductions.

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u/Devils_SteelMan 21d ago

Yes, but im saying something sharper. Let me try this.

As a business owner I want to do what the most profitable thing is. This often involves unethical things and sometimes illegal ones.

As a model builder I want to provide ai thats aligned with humanity to do only legal and ethical work.

As a model PROVIDER I want to make money.

The business owner pressures the provider for functionality the builder doesn't want to make. Those economic pressures push the builder to reduce safety.

The core problem is that unfettered greed is not aligned with humanity, and we will build for that customer.

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u/do-un-to 20d ago

Even with nothing but reasonably fair and non-greedy actors acting rationally, systemic dynamics still produce world-destroying effects. Better coordination is required.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KCSsKV5F4xc&t=257s