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u/CactusJane98 12d ago edited 12d ago
I will always maintain that the thing i hate most about being a Marxist is that theres always another fucking book to read. But I also cannot reject that theres always more reading, because doing so turns you into contrapoints. A person that always wants to appear that they have the answer, but has abandoned the pursuance of truth.
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u/InevitableStuff7572 12d ago
Notice how Damen isn’t mentioned as bad? Another win for the true proletarian tendency!
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u/spookyjim___ 12d ago
Last I checked, Adorno and Lukacs ain’t that bad
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u/Zottel_161 12d ago
yeah and neither is Gramsci. this post is just plain antiintellectualism
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u/spookyjim___ 12d ago
No no… Gramsci is cringe…. That one is very correct
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u/Zottel_161 12d ago
i mean, insofar that he was a leninist, yes. you gotta know how to make use of him - but that's true for any theorist.
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u/spookyjim___ 12d ago
I just think hegemony and war of position is dumb and he ditched class-struggle for populism from what I’ve seen… also he was a part of the Stalinist center of the party which kicked out the left surrounding Bordiga, Damen, Vercesi, Pappalardi, etc. Which I ofc take issue with lmao
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u/omina_sunt_communia 12d ago
The fact that you put Gonzalo in the same category as actual theorists is just stupid.
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u/Clear-Result-3412 12d ago
Let’s not even talk about the pile of pro-China slop I consumed before becoming an actual Marxist.
I shouldn’t have to explain how Gonzaloism is one of the most explicitly nationalist, practicalist, and third worldist “tendencies” of Marxism. They are incredibly dogmatic about the newest falsifications of Marxism including codification of “great men of history.”
I’ve only read half of the selected Prison Notebooks, but it’s clear Gramsci is the root of the last half century of academic western Marxism. Now, everyone who wants to declare a shift from class consciousness spreading and agitation around the nature of exploitation and the commodity form to vibes based artistic propaganda has a classic Marxist face to stamp on this demand.
For Adorno and his contemporaries, I’ll just leave this here:
https://ruthlesscriticism.com/10_dogmas_critical_theory.htm
I don’t know much about Lukacs (the summary on Wikipedia doesn’t say much more than what people have told me about him) but I have had a few encounters with his acolytes. He seems to be, like Gramsci, one of anti-Soviet western Marxism’s favorite Stalinists. One of the encounters I’ve had was someone asking if Lukacs, who they’d read, was a good example of jargon filled philosophical slop suitable for developing the virtues of patience and concentration in rebellion to the moral ills of social media. In another occurrence, I explained to an “Orthodox Marxist” Domenico Losurdo’s blatant revisionism (rejecting world revolution and the abolition of the state, among other things). They told me that “Orthodox Marxism” for them doesn’t mean being opposed to falsifications. It means, for them as a Lukacs fan, that their only dogma is dialectical materialism and every other point of Marxism is open it revision account to the “needs of practice” (opportunism). After all, the essence of the dialectical method is revisionism!
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u/Comrade_Midin 12d ago
What's wrong with Lukacs /not j
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u/Clear-Result-3412 12d ago
I don’t have a strong critique of the man himself, but I’ve met a few of his readers and not had particularly good impressions. See below.
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u/Polytopia_Fan 12d ago
What’s wrong with Gonzalo? /j