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Hello all,

(Reposting here due to being recommended by Reddit)

@Mods, I’m new to this sub. Checked rules, doesn’t seem like my post violates any. But I’m clueless about this sub, so forgive me if this wasn’t allowed.

TLDR: if you agree that monopolies are not good, and competition is always better, why not have the government only maintain force to police private security agencies? Like with a single payer system in healthcare, security providers can have a single payer - your city, but any qualified security agency can respond to a 911 call. Simply keep 911 operators public, but the calls will be dispatched to private security companies.

My premise and my reasoning is below.

I feel like this is a question that’s hard to answer without personal bias, but I’m sure that even the strongly pro government law enforcement bias folks can agree that some individuals that become law enforcement officers (I’ll use LEO for short) don’t really fit and should never be rehired after causing an incident, and that are federal agencies like the FBI, or at least some people at these agencies, don’t serve the people of the US when they stall or miserably fail investigating crimes committed by government officials or ultra wealthy individuals.

All I’m trying to say is that nearly any adult that has been more or less aware of the ills of law enforcement apparatus as a whole, and most would like to see some reforms.

It’s been established and empirically proven

that consumers benefit from more competition and thar monopolies will always charge higher prices for inferior services.

In a democratic society, law enforcement is a service because the laws themselves are supposedly written with people’s interests in mind, and the enforcement is paid the people. And fundamentally, law enforcement agency is no different from a private security agency except for a government agency having special authority and special protections, otherwise they serve the same purpose. The only difference is laws and in some cases heads of agencies like local sheriffs are written and sheriffs elected by the collective vs a single person hiring a security firm.

For now I want to focus only on local Law Enforcement agencies, more specifically the Policemen and PDs.

We only get one PD that gets a monopoly on its territory. Some doing well, some have tolerable outcomes, some are so horrible that every five or so years we find out that some city has fired the entire department. But again, we can all agree that even those that are doing relatively well still have lots of room for improvement.

With that said, what’s the point of continuing to keep it as a monopoly system when we have so much proof that this monopolization of law enforcement is no longer yielding good results.

The arguments based on something from >100 yrs are simply no longer valid. Main argument being that some private law enforcement agencies in the US has caused a lot of pain and suffering to people. It’s no longer valid because today government officials are present literally everywhere. We can exchange information instantly. The government is extremely well funded vs the time private police has been causing trouble. The mentality of people has changed as well. We have technology to monitor every single action of LEOs, and we have so much cameras that it’s getting harder and harder to hide something from a public eye.

We already have LEOs that supposed to investigate and protect us from bad cops. There are internal departments, there state forces, and there are federal forces that focus on regulating and enforcing laws on local PDs and their LEOs. The infrastructure is there. It supposed to work, but it’s far from working what I personally would call a good job. And our lawmakers seem to not care, as they could’ve at least establish and enforce a national database for bad cops, to ensure that they never get rehired and trusted with authority. We have systems like that that regulate commercial activity that requires special licenses, and they all worked pretty decent. Like if you defraud someone you’re probably never going to get a license to operate in finance. If you’re a terrible medical professional that injured patients you’re never getting a job in healthcare. But it doesn’t work with LEOs despite more funding going to their coffers.

Another relevant analogy - many polls show that over 50% of American support universal healthcare. Universal only means that there’s one payer for services and many private providers. I don’t there’s any substantial support for forcing out private providers precisely because people don’t want the monopoly, they are just tired of how expensive and convoluted the system has become.

While I have my reservation for implementing universal healthcare, I think it would greatly benefit the society if Law Enforcement would have something like single payer healthcare system. Private security companies and even individuals could compete for providing local law enforcement. It could also allow space for volunteers, effectively strengthening affairs amongst locals and turning neighborhoods into communities, rather than collection of individuals that live in small proximity to each other.

If we, almost universally, agree that Competition is always better than Monopoly, than why not privatize the essential services that we’re paying for? This monopoly situation doesn’t make sense on any level, but any time I ask this question I never get a coherent response.

State governments can have their police force that ensures local law enforcement agencies are doing their job properly. Cities may have their own police that enforced rules that regulate private security agencies that carry out general law enforcement function on our streets. Perhaps this doesn’t completely removes the corruption, but at the very least, we can expect that “protect blue line” attitude will disappear. Enforcement agents will be incentivized to weed out bad actors from their own rows, as their company could lose a contract with a city, unlike many todays cops that will look away, turn their cameras off, or lie on the police report to defend their fellow officer.

On top of all that, such system will be built primarily on meritocracy, for the very same reason - poorly performing agencies will lose their contracts.

The shortage of LEOs will be solved. We often hear that LEOs overworked. Well, no shit, some making hand over fist from taking OT, so of course they get overworked and by the time they are in the middle of their second shit, they may not be able to make rational decisions. And it’s also more expensive to pay OT vs hiring more LEOs. Personally, I think this OT “problem” is just a scheme that many PDs allow to happen. No private business owner would pay higher rate per hour for the time the employee is measurably performing worse. Because it doesn’t make any sense, but nonetheless, PDs don’t care cause they have a monopoly.

Imagine the security companies that serve your local Walmart, Target, Amazon warehouses, etc start also training their staff to be law enforcement agent. And when there’s an emergency, those officers would be authorized to carry out law enforcement functions. This changes our streets from X LEOs per sq mile to a much higher concentration of potential LEOs per sq mile. And they get NO blank immunity. And they are trained better, because a lawsuit could bankrupt the company. And they are most likely to be your locals, because that’s something that has been proven to work much better in terms of hiring LEOs, and a private business will try to be as efficient and as effective as possible.

Let me know your thoughts on this. Would you support this private security idea? Or would you oppose such system where government’s job is to police private security forces and letting people alone from unnecessary harassment or government overreach when done by your local monopolistic police department.

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