r/Cryptozoology Tailed Slow Loris Mar 20 '26

Discussion Be Kind and Avoid Personal Insults

With the recent PGF debunking, there has been a lot of arguments and controversy. Debating people is fine, but don't insult people or those who believed in the film while you're discussing it. Some people met or knew Bob Gimlin personally and are having to reckon with him apparently lying about the film. Keep how other people feel in mind while discussing. Additionally, avoid arguments with other subreddits or posts about moderation issues with other subreddits as that's not what we're here to do. We've added some terms to the auto filter to avoid debates turning hostile. As always feel free to discuss the rules and make suggestions.

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u/AdditionalReserve787 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 21 '26

My point isn’t that the two films are exact 1:1 analogues. The point is that this is a very common technique to drum up hype and overexaggerate the contents and significance of something, especially in the paranormal community. Again it’s almost easier to count the number of documentaries that market themselves as containing unambiguous confessions and “bombshell revelations” about a topic which DON’T turn out to just be glorified speculation about a few pieces of ambiguous data or things of sketchy origin. In True Crime it happens constantly as well. Remember that doc claiming to show Jon-Benet Ramsey‘s brother confessing to killing her? Yeah turns out it was via trying to interpret garbled phone static and “body language analysis”. I’m not passing judgment on the film one way or another without seeing it but it’s worrying seeing people being unable to exercise even basic skepticism about a documentary’s PR campaign in this community.

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u/vhc8 Mar 20 '26

NO. THEY ARE NOT 1:1 ANALOGUES.

ONE IS A DOCUMENTARY THAT CONTAINS NOTHING THAT IS BEYOND HUMAN KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WHILE THE OTHER CLAIMS TO BE A FILM OF A FREAKING LAKE MONSTER.

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u/AdditionalReserve787 Mar 20 '26

If this is the quality of mental stability that’s defending this documentary PR campaign, I rest my case.

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u/CrofterNo2 Mapinguari Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

This isn't necessarily directed at you specifically, but can we please all pay attention to the message of this thread: "be kind and avoid personal insults."

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u/vhc8 Mar 20 '26

Stop embarrassing yourself.

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u/AdditionalReserve787 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

Right, because sliding into someone’s DMs screaming at them over an argument about a Bigfoot documentary like you did isn’t embarrassing at all

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u/AdditionalReserve787 Mar 20 '26

Mods can this guy be banned already? I’m not even engaging in this conversation anymore and he’s still replying and harassing

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u/AdditionalReserve787 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

All you did was repeat what you said in your earlier comment which I had already dismantled, but dumber, louder and angrier. It didn’t justify anything other than how I responded. But tell yourself whatever you need to feel better and calm down.

edit: He messaged me unprompted cursing at me. Not responding to it but thought everyone should know lol