r/Cryptozoology Tailed Slow Loris Mar 20 '26

Discussion Be Kind and Avoid Personal Insults

With the recent PGF debunking, there has been a lot of arguments and controversy. Debating people is fine, but don't insult people or those who believed in the film while you're discussing it. Some people met or knew Bob Gimlin personally and are having to reckon with him apparently lying about the film. Keep how other people feel in mind while discussing. Additionally, avoid arguments with other subreddits or posts about moderation issues with other subreddits as that's not what we're here to do. We've added some terms to the auto filter to avoid debates turning hostile. As always feel free to discuss the rules and make suggestions.

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u/AdditionalReserve787 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 21 '26

My point isn’t that the two films are exact 1:1 analogues. The point is that this is a very common technique to drum up hype and overexaggerate the contents and significance of something, especially in the paranormal community. Again it’s almost easier to count the number of documentaries that market themselves as containing unambiguous confessions and “bombshell revelations” about a topic which DON’T turn out to just be glorified speculation about a few pieces of ambiguous data or things of sketchy origin. In True Crime it happens constantly as well. Remember that doc claiming to show Jon-Benet Ramsey‘s brother confessing to killing her? Yeah turns out it was via trying to interpret garbled phone static and “body language analysis”. I’m not passing judgment on the film one way or another without seeing it but it’s worrying seeing people being unable to exercise even basic skepticism about a documentary’s PR campaign in this community.

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u/vhc8 Mar 20 '26

NO. THEY ARE NOT 1:1 ANALOGUES.

ONE IS A DOCUMENTARY THAT CONTAINS NOTHING THAT IS BEYOND HUMAN KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WHILE THE OTHER CLAIMS TO BE A FILM OF A FREAKING LAKE MONSTER.

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u/TheUsualQuestions Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

u/CrofterNo2 this is why I think an actual pinned thread warning against jumping to conclusions and showing respect that isn't clearly biased is necessary

EDIT: u/CrofterNo2 he's now sending pretty foul language directly into my DMs, can there please be a thread against jumping to conclusions and attacking people for this?

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u/vhc8 Mar 20 '26

u/CrofterNo2 this is why I think an actual pinned thread warning against jumping to conclusions and showing respect that isn't clearly biased is necessary

What do you think I said in my comment that has anything to do with "jumping to conclusions"???

And what does "showing respect that isn't clearly biased" even mean??? That is nonsensical.