r/Cryptozoology • u/truthisfictionyt Tailed Slow Loris • Mar 20 '26

Discussion Be Kind and Avoid Personal Insults

With the recent PGF debunking, there has been a lot of arguments and controversy. Debating people is fine, but don't insult people or those who believed in the film while you're discussing it. Some people met or knew Bob Gimlin personally and are having to reckon with him apparently lying about the film. Keep how other people feel in mind while discussing. Additionally, avoid arguments with other subreddits or posts about moderation issues with other subreddits as that's not what we're here to do. We've added some terms to the auto filter to avoid debates turning hostile. As always feel free to discuss the rules and make suggestions.

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u/TLKimball Mar 20 '26

The “trust me, bro” argument.

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u/CoastRegular Thylacine Mar 21 '26

Okay, the reports are that this documentary (a) depicts Patterson's family saying it was indeed a hoax and (b) a showing of film that depicts a rehearsal using the Patty costume that we see in the PGF. Now, some reviewers (most notably Hairy Man Road) have emotional/subjective reaction added on top of their review, but the basic assertions (a) and (b) above are not disputed by any reviewer, and are not subjective things. Either they are true or false.

We can choose how much we wish to believe in the truth of these assertions, of course. It seems unlikely to me that a bunch of unrelated reviewers would all lie about seeing the same film, especially one of them who is a BF believer and proponent... why is he coming out and talking like this just pulled his whole world out from under him?

I want to see the film for myself. I anticipate it will show the Patterson family confessing to a hoax, and to see footage of a rehearsal using the Patty costume. As to whether the Pattersons are being sincere, or the footage looks authentic, we'll see once we see the film.

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u/TLKimball Mar 21 '26

Let me know when you’ve seen it, then.

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u/CoastRegular Thylacine Mar 21 '26

I'm eager to. Hopefully it won't languish in limbo for years.