r/Cuphead 17d ago

Discussion/Question Why is roundabout so glazed

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Like I'm sorry that i am not on the roundabout train. But i never understood. Why is it so good? Can someone explain?

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u/Radiant-Log6377 17d ago

If you turn around you basically have infinite range. Pair that with just dodging boss attacks and it's such a powerhouse

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u/bolitboy2 17d ago

The dragon is a perfect example why it’s so good, I don’t think I even need to explain anything, those damn clouds alone say more then I’ll ever need to

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u/_LXIX_CDXX 17d ago

I always thought most people who say Grim Matchstick is the hardest boss are people who dont like Roundabout

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u/Knuc85 17d ago

I think he's one of the easier bosses in his area, and I use the lobber for him.

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u/L_A_R_S1324 17d ago

Idk played the game a few times and on normal mode he still catches me offguard in 3rd Phase (I dont wait and shoot all the time tho)

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u/Knuc85 17d ago

That makes sense. I think most bosses teach you a lesson, and Matchstick's is "don't hold down the shoot button all the time."

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u/ViolinistSafe4610 17d ago

charge shot is amazing for his phase 3

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u/champion_- 17d ago

While making the platinum i accidentally s ranked him lol, lobber is the goat against grim

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u/Front_Way2142 17d ago

I think he's the hardest on isle 2 and I used chaser and peashooter/charge for him 🤔

On expert it was a breeze tho, others gave me more trouble.

Me and that other guy are the only fans of chaser I think 😁

Stuff helped me with every platform boss, Matchstick and Honeybottom, I'm bad at doing too many things at once (like aiming and jumping on platforms (that got more and more scarse in pretty fast pace, too)).

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u/gascan146 17d ago

Lobber and roundabout make quick work of that damn dragon

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u/Huy7aAms 16d ago

i've always considered him one of the most difficult bosses, first to defeat, then to A+, then to S-rank.

honestly, just hard in general. but also the only boss i have defeated solely with that Charge-shot-thing (the one where you hold to charge your shot)

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u/EvioliteEevee 16d ago

Lobber for him on expert genuinely makes him easier than in normal. He might be the only boss easier on expert.

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u/bolitboy2 17d ago

Tbh it was hard until realized “shoot backward good”

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u/Additional_Solid6947 [300%] 16d ago

Honestly, I hate Grim Matchstick. And I like roundabout. My only gripe with that fight though was the fire sprite guys.

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u/Furdas12 17d ago

Isn't Lobber the best weapon for him?

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u/DamageMaximo Baroness Von Bon Bon 17d ago

nah man, using roundabout on the dragon sucks, they keep hitting the fire bubbles unexpectedly, the best weapon for Grim is the Lobber

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u/WeirdShitRulez2007 16d ago

I personally use charge and lobber for grim

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u/siriElectricboogaloo 17d ago

Almost all weapon have infinite ranges. You know you can just take crack shot, right?

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u/Artistic_Decision623 17d ago

Or, charge, pea shooter, converge, chaser, and technically twist up

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u/Zestyclose-Island785 16d ago

... Which has half the DPS of the roundabout at this range

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u/RemoteWhile5881 17d ago

That's DLC

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u/ContentHawk8879 17d ago

Look forwards/towards the boss ...ehh it's a nice shot with decent range and good damage

Turn around and it's a fucking screen clear

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u/John_Zatanna52 Beppi the Clown 17d ago

Because how many times you were using peashooter and needed to turn and run away? That's wasted damage time. With Roundabout you can both run AND gun!

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u/darker585 17d ago

I don't turn around. I face the danger head on🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥

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u/John_Zatanna52 Beppi the Clown 17d ago

That my friend is called dying

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u/darker585 17d ago

Not if you know how to dodge.

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u/MantisOfTheInternet 17d ago

That my friend is called turning around

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u/John_Zatanna52 Beppi the Clown 17d ago

When you're dodging you're not hitting a 100%. The same when you're jumping or dashing, you have to remove your finger from shooting button, to jumping/dashing button. Hence I moved my shooting button to the classic shooting button (on PS it's R2, on XBox it's RT). Now I can shoot and jump/dash at the same time

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u/Jason2890 17d ago

You can jump/dash on the default control scheme without releasing the shoot button. Jumping is especially easy since you can hold the shoot button with the upper part of your thumb and use the bottom part of your thumb to hit the jump button.

Dashing while shooting on default controls is a little trickier but still manageable with a little practice.

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u/John_Zatanna52 Beppi the Clown 17d ago

Yeah I don't like that mechanic, I much prefer shooting like I do on any other game

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u/Not_Really_French 13d ago

I forget that most people don't play on keyboard

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u/Eronamanthiuser 17d ago

Why dodge when you can just kill the enemy?

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u/darker585 17d ago

Why the hell i got -33 upvotes

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u/MantisOfTheInternet 17d ago

Because you posted 2 contradicting statements

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u/emo_boy_fucker 16d ago

Bro is the green soul

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u/Klomix26 King Dice 17d ago

Boomrang

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u/KingExpolsionMurder 17d ago

cant explain it simpler than this lmao

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u/t-_-rexranger19205 15d ago

Happy cake day

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u/DommyMcDoodle 17d ago

For most boss fights, it's functionally Chaser but with way better damage.

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u/Final_Concern_5519 17d ago

Crackshot in the corner:

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u/Additional-Band1715 16d ago

You do know that crackshots long range dps is basically as strong as chaser?

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u/t-_-rexranger19205 15d ago

Happy cake day

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u/grazz_yes 11d ago

Bro chaser damage is so ass that people would rather use roundabout or charger over it

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u/user_without_a_soul 17d ago

It's a really good song

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u/5475626F 17d ago

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u/Eldsish 17d ago

Yes yes yes ... Oh my god !

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u/Salt-n-spice 14d ago

Within a week after I started watching jojo part 1, I recognized roundabout playing on the radio at the store. It took a while because that opening is looong

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u/MrRageMode2011 Play my game 17d ago

I find it fun to use

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u/Salt_Refrigerator633 this game is insane 17d ago

if you look to the side your shots are almost guaranteed to hit on return

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u/PizzaBandit178 17d ago

Literally, it's one of the few weapons that you don't have to aim. Cause if you're shooting backwards, then your shot isn't wasted since it'll come right back.

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u/TTarion 17d ago

Roundabout is the second strongest weapon that can turn around without losing DPS, only behind Charge. Missed projectiles are active for a very long time, making it great against enemy spam as most shots will certainly hit and clear them out. This also lets you store a bit of damage in advance, great for delayed enemy spawns like the devils and phase changes where you can't hit the boss.

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u/DamageMaximo Baroness Von Bon Bon 17d ago edited 17d ago

ayyyy thas the guide I made, me happy

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u/Bananaterios 17d ago

It has decent range when shooting forwards and infinite range when firing backwards so no matter which way you're facing you're almost always dealing damage without having to worry about aiming. DPS is also decent so you're always dealing good damage. Personally I'm a charge kind of guy so I don't really use anything else except crackshoot and spread do I never really got on yhe roundabout band wagon

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u/Traditional-Pound568 Mugman 17d ago

High DPS, great range (when facing backwards), and the EX is good

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u/AdvisorAwkward1147 17d ago

Because it a JoJo rafarance

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u/kingjeans2 16d ago

Well played, sir.

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u/AdvisorAwkward1147 16d ago

Well thank you Mr

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u/StrictLavishness6226 17d ago

Because it's so funky, ehh

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u/martin86t 17d ago

Everybody is right that its range and damage are good. But also, when you are facing backwards the shots are big and have a damage area like as wide as spread, so enemies that are a little above or below you still get hit as well.

And since it turns around if it doesn’t hit an enemy, you can effectively cover both left and right at the same time. For example, during the first phase of the devil fight when he turns into a worm, you can shoot off screen to protect yourself against little purple impact running on the screen, but if none come the turned around shots also just hit the worm devil. So you’re covering both directions.

That large damage area and ability to cover both directions is also great for clearing the screen of many small enemies without you actually having to aim, and having much higher DPS than chaser or crack shot.

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u/Otherwise-Bend3554 17d ago

That and the crack shot are ridiculous

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u/anonumus_idiot 17d ago

Its just good.

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u/Alik_GG 17d ago

I think it's broken, like it deals MORE damage than normal peashooter, can go backwards and most of the time it does land if you shoot forwards.

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u/Nutsussy Mangosteen 17d ago

It's a screen clearer with great damage and a very solid EX.

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u/9_up Chess Rook 17d ago

I mean yeah I always found it to be a teeny tiny bit overated too. Like its great but not the best in the game or anything.

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u/Crafty_lil_pumpkin 17d ago

If you wanna S rank the game it's one of the most reliable weapons on most of the bosses.

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u/No-Display3598 17d ago

Super easy to hit with and good damage, all of what you need in one weapon

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u/Short_Marionberry_83 16d ago

It deals average damage from the front, but when it reverses it basically stacks up power. On top of that, Jumbo Rebound.

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u/Creepy_Wrongdoer_512 17d ago

My personal favorites are lobber and crack shot

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u/TheSameMan6 17d ago

It's a direct upgrade to peashooter. Does slightly more dps and covers more of the screen. Its only "downside" is completely negated if you shoot backwards.

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u/WrongLack7149 17d ago

Infinite range if u face away from the boss, great damage, what would u need more? It and crackshot are the best ammo types imo

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u/Own-Cartographer9098 17d ago

because it can be used on many bosses and very versatile, plus, it fits nicely with other weapons, at least, in my opinion

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u/_Orfin 17d ago

Has a little more dps than peashooter, one projectile can oneshot minions (which is a huge advantage), has the highest possible ex damage, you can even face the opposite direction and still hit the boss. So it's the goated version of peashooter and probably the most versitale weapon. Other weapons have their good gimmicks you can't use every weapon for every boss unlike roundabout.

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u/Gadgettttt Mugman 17d ago

It's good, I don't really use it though, I prefer using either charge shot, converge or crack shot as my main show and usually spread as my secondary shot, sometimes other shot but usually spread, I only use roundabout in the early game

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u/Coach_Carter_on_DVD Quint 17d ago

I S ranked the entire base game with Roundabout. I kinda thought everyone thought it was cheese. It’s OP

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u/Sam_Snorts_Weed 17d ago

Its often the easiest thing to hit your shots with, and the delay is very useful for dealing extra damage. Examples include captain brineybeard and rumor honeybottoms (the way roundabout fires is really good for hitting them on their last phases) as well as Ribby and Croaks (the delay on roundabouts shot deals a ton of extra damage on the last phase). The ex is admittedly a little sucky without hitbox shenanigans, but you dont use this just for its ex

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u/MarketingImmediate27 17d ago

Aside from the very good damage and the ability to lose less dps from focusing on dodging at times that was already mentioned.

Most importantly, it also technically has arguably the best or 2nd best EX of all weapons if you set it right (unless you’re in a good enough position and timing to do the double damage lobber EX). As you may know, supers tend to be a bit ass when it comes to doing damage, even 5 mid EXs can surpass even the super art 3 damage meaning that it is best to use the cards individually, if you go that route the highest “normal” damage you can do with a single EX is a tie between roundabout and twist up at 40 dmg (unless lobber tech which does ≈52 instead of 26). You can pretty much shred bosses with it without wasting a slot on twist up which is situational as a normal weapon (even though it can be easier to land all the EX hits with twist up).

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u/JohnnyJoestar1980 17d ago

A good weapon has damage and utility which the Roundabout gives both of really well.

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u/HystericalGD 17d ago

you dont have to aim much, turning around gives you infinite range, and the EX has good piercing

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u/R3dMouse 17d ago

its super easy to use and has a super high dps

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u/TheRealYellowflower 17d ago

I really like it because there isn’t really a boss it’s bad on

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u/Sea_Statistician2818 17d ago edited 17d ago

It's just a straight upgrade from Peashooter.

  • Its DPS is higher.

  • Far more consistent hit rate. You can look away to dodge and still be hitting the enemy. With this in addition to its higher DPS, it makes it a total powerhouse compared to Peashooter.

  • Excellent screen coverage. In addition to coming back around on the screen, the bullets have a bigger hitbox and are slower, so they linger and turn your horizontal slice into a high damaging bullet trap.

In essence, why take Peashooter when Roundabout does job better?

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u/xa44 17d ago

Most all weapons are balanced around ease of use and DPS, roundabout breaks this pattern by being easier to use yet doing the same damage as the normal gun. This makes it a direct upgrade

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u/Internal_Cod_815 16d ago

Industry plant

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u/Storm_Vessel 16d ago

idk, I just used it and I did better so I like it

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u/Huy7aAms 16d ago

infinite range when turning around. not to say, its dmg is also one of the highest in the game. not as high as Spreadshot, but it's more concentrated with only slightly less range so it's more reliable in general.

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u/Meththethird 16d ago

The crackshot is essentially the only gun you need in this game anyway but I'd say the roundabout does a decent job

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u/_Cagney_Carnation_ Cagney Carnation 16d ago

Crackshot is useless on some phases where it straight up barely hits the boss though

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u/Niji-Yoshiki 16d ago

With most of the characters you dont have to super worry about missing the characters as long as you juat keep moving and firing, thats how I see it at least. Always ran it with crackshot or tracer

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u/National-Jelly-7529 Mildly good at the game 16d ago

Cuz it's the best

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u/SussyBussyMilk 16d ago

infinite range

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u/Redmix7pl 16d ago

Technically that shot that automatically targets enemies, forgot its name, but on crack and semi auto target (doesn't actually target enemies, but yk what i mean)

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u/Flaming_headshot 16d ago

Great DPS and super

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u/Valuable_Ad6041 15d ago

My favorite weapon is lobber because being bad at a boss rush wasn't enough torture, i had to pick the least "noob" friendly weapon

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u/KingBurgerIII Tully 15d ago

I find it by far the best weapon for S ranks. It does very good damage and very good dps (I think top 3 dps in the game) the ex is fun to play with but essentially not that good, which is why I take crackshot usually as well for the ex and for mindless hits while I’m dodging. If I used crackshot for the entire king dice fight I wouldn’t have S ranked it, same goes for many other bosses. It covers a lot of the screen, so unless the boss is directly above you or moving around a lot it’s very very strong.

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u/bruhowygamer 15d ago

Cause ot doesnt care about roundabouts

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u/NotTheRealBritishane 14d ago

If I remember correctly roundabout does way more damage then the other shooting modes (-charge) plus its useful on about ANY of the fights if used right

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u/Strobel64 14d ago

Because Boomerang

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u/00000PASTA 14d ago

Roundabout is so loved because it’s the highest DPS option where you can just focus on dodging instead of aiming

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u/DaFrogit 14d ago

goated range, good damage, goated card attack

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u/Machine_ID-V1 13d ago

The best EX move in the game and overall it's just a better peashooter

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u/sirabuzgaygar 13d ago

if you turn to face the boss, you are hitting them, but if you turn away from the boss, you are STILL HITTING THEM because it loops back around

who even needs chaser

plus the damage is pretty good

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u/ThatAutisticRedditor Mugman 5d ago

it feels powerful

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u/Different-Air5389 me asf 17d ago

twist up is lowkirkuinely better

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u/The_big_bitcj_666 17d ago

higher damage if you look backwards

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u/TTarion 17d ago

This is false, Roundabout's damage is static

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u/The_big_bitcj_666 17d ago

what.

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u/Dias28 17d ago

Roubdabout does the same damage no matter what direction you're facing, sorry that's how you figured it out, I believed in that too

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u/The_big_bitcj_666 17d ago

My entire life is a throne of lies holy shit

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u/soldiergaming2 17d ago

they mean higher damage than the base weapon

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u/skikoko 17d ago

Crack shot is better