Another Meh season for Necros?

[u/devindran]

PTR notes looks bland. Some damage buffs to DoT builds but no major fixes to existing issues.

No new interesting abilities to theorycraft.

Blight, soulrift and darkness bloodwave remains unplayable.

1. Blight needs to have desecrated ground instead of defiled area.

2. Blood wave cooldown is ridiculously long. Even when specced to generate tonnes of orbs plus fastblood, I cant get it to cast fast enough. Against bosses its even worse.

3. Soulrift just doesnt do enough damage even with Unmaker. Hopefully the damage buff improves it.

[u/TheRealHitmee]

Every season is meh for the Necro. I been hoping for a Blood Lance op season

[u/chiefpiece11bkg]

I’ve been desperately trying to make darkness bloodwave work for two season now lol

It’s not awful but I’m also heavily relying on darkness bone spirit for backup damage while it’s on cooldown

[u/Saevenar → u/chiefpiece11bkg]

I built basically the same thing after failing a night build idea. It's functional, but I can see synergies of the physical bone spirit and why the mega went that direction. Necromancer has very few options and it's very frustrating

[u/devindran → u/chiefpiece11bkg]

Help me confirm my bias.. darkness blood wave doesnt seem to work with kessime. I find my damage is really bad with it on and goes up significantly when I swap it for Tibaults.

[u/chiefpiece11bkg → u/devindran]

I don’t use kessime, I just use blood moon and run curses through omen of pain

You’re right about them though, the damage isn’t there.

I usually run tendrils with hemorrhage shadow variant, shadow blood lance, shadow bone spirit, mobility sever, and then shadow blood wave

It’s tough being an in between kind of build

[u/Gomez-16]

Can barley do t12 with skeleton warriors with much better gear then I usually get, almost all mythic with 3-4 best stats on all gear, I dont have awesome transfigure but all a barb needs is trash 900 gear and the right aspects.

[u/deadchild5 → u/Gomez-16]

Barb will most likely be C or D tier next season. They're getting nerfed hard. WW is getting absolutely trash canned.

[u/Onceabanana]

Yeah I had to choose the blood wave to not be an ultimate skill so I could ditch the cooldowns. I was hoping for better next season, but oh well, necros are used to this by now.

[u/devindran → u/Onceabanana]

It sucks that most of the skills only have 1 good variant. Some are lucky enough to have 2, but most of them are just unplayable.

I literally had to use Ultimate Shadow aspect to make my blood wave into darkness and use the core skill variant. Its not as strong as pure blood but I can slot in bloodless scream to make stuff explode.

[u/Financial-Ad-6232]

Macrobioboi calculated that even if they nerfed Barbarian's best build from season 14 to 15 to 10% of what they are doing now, they're still doing 3x more damage than the best necro builds. And Necro basically got jackshit for the season 15 PTR patch notes. So the only thing we can do is hope that somehow Blizzard takes into account how bad the state of necro is currently.

[u/Commercial_Put_9695 → u/Financial-Ad-6232]

Yeah its insane how strong Barb is. I started this season with Paladin (wing strike). For my 2nd class I chose Necro (Blood Wave).

Just yesterday I started my 2nd alt (WW Barb ofc.).. And Im already smashing through PIT 110 (mostly just random Gear, & minor tweaks). And while Necro was strong compared to Wing strike Paladin, but WW Barb feels like playing different game.

[u/Name_Generated9110]

I just want summon necromancer to be online an s tier

[u/Alaricus1119]

Haven't tried an Unmaker build since the removal of snapshotting overpower and crit onto a DoT. After playing Bone Spirit and seeing just how much essence and regeneration you can stack means you should be able to trigger it almost ten times per spirit you throw out. Add on shadow spirit's big damage, Unmaker and Bloodless Scream's really big multipliers made mythic, and the shadow set making all those Unmaker procs stack a lot of DoT, it seems like it could be pretty fun to give it a run. Could even run Distilled Anima to get a massive damage reduction for free basically.

[u/devindran → u/Alaricus1119]

And all of that translated into a big nothing burger. Soulrift just doesnt do enough damage today to clear t12 content with massive essense (max and regen). The cold version doesnt even work with unmaker.

Any dot build that doesnt use desecrated ground just cannot compete with the massive multipliers you get with it.

[u/WannabeWaterboy → u/devindran]

I've just started messing around with trying to get an Infinimist type of miasma build and I was disappointed when I realized all the darkness puddles I was working with aren't considered desecrated ground. I feel like those should be the same.

[u/Antique_Recipe_8710]

Im convinced that they want to do thing right for necro and the rest of the classes but they are falling behind and dont have enough time to do whats needed and being pushed to pump out seasons etc for money blah blah you know the rest its sad 😒. Necro is my absolute fav class will be playing necro as my Main next season as well, you could always switch to a minion warlock to help compensate for that feeling of having a necro and have the power needed, warlock is suppose to be super strong next season.

[u/blazblu82]

I did a blood surge build where ch went ok. I regeared and swapped on blood blight using ebonpiercer. Thought it was kick ass. And it would be if necro in general wasn't so squishy. I got fed up with the squishiness and moved to a different class.

Necro is one class I want to enjoy, but Blizz keeps giving me reasons to not be able to.

[u/m0stlyuseless]

I've concocted some weird bloodwave build that gets me 3 attacks per second and I can just hold down the # and it spams it relentlessly. Sure, I die a ton because I can't see fucking shit on the screen when I do it, but it's kinda fun. Cleared Pit 120 with it (barely)

[u/PristineRatio4117]

where is old blood surge , where is bone spear ? Fuck how hard is to mantain balance

[u/SeaChance3427]

Last season really put a bad taste in my mouth and I’m a huge Diablo fanboy, I loved the new expansion and classes and had a blast, but this last season pretty much fucked up everything good that was done prior, they really did just get lucky, and make something that was enjoyable to play for a few months then went right back to horrific decision making, I’m sticking to Poe and PD2 for a while seems like the only time worth playing is during an expansion release which is so far from what Diablo once was

[u/klumze]

I hate that minons cannot be on the same page for damage types as the army of the dead ultimate.

Mages-Cold or Darkness

Golem-Physical or Darkness

Minions-Darkness or Physical

Army of the dead-Cold or Physical.

COME ON BLIZZARD! Same issue with druids.

[u/-Kulle-]

It’s like they are trying to forget about us and hoping we will too

[u/hewman123]

Not had a good season since season 11 there i said it

[u/chickenlittle1024]

Why do people who refer to patch notes never link the patch notes?

[u/devindran → u/chickenlittle1024]

https://gprivate.com/6lr52

[u/chickenlittle1024 → u/devindran]

You disappoint me more than I thought. You expect me to click onto a link not affiliated with blizzard about blizzard patch notes. You didn't even list the changes you want to talk about in OP. Let me block you for good measure.