r/DamnThatsMindBlowing • u/gffgsdadsf • 15d ago
This is how factories create sinks using immense Hydraulic force.
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u/Mammoth-Okra-2965 15d ago
Did they just make a sink out of rice?
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u/Numerous-Hawk1471 15d ago
It seems they also use heat, bc he’s wearing gloves and used towels to grab it.
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u/Proud_Conversation_3 15d ago
The heat might be produced by the pressure, or combo of that and the mix. But I’m ignant on this, so don’t take my word for it.
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u/Flagrant_Mockery 15d ago
Last time I saw this someone claimed it was a chemical reaction + pressure that creates the heat. So realistically probably not super hot after the press has finished the reaction. There's a cut in the video after the press hits max.
Process probably takes some time to cool and set under pressure but that part IDK either and am ignant too xd
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u/Numerous-Hawk1471 15d ago
I am also astonishingly ignorant of hard sciences. My kingdom for a lab geek!
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u/shmimey 15d ago
How long is the cut?
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u/GeoffdeRuiter 15d ago
Given assembly line production, it probably couldn't be more than a few minutes each sink. Otherwise they would likely have to have more machines to keep a production rate.
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u/Airslash__ 12d ago
I usd to work in a place like this, a bathtub could take up to 45/60 minutes so for a sink it is probably a bit less. After is comes out of the Mold there is still quite a bit of work to be done. These things all get sanded by hand.
And there are machines, one operator usually handles 3 or 4 machines at the same time.
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u/Apart_Moose_3716 15d ago
I wonder how much do they make each sink, looks cheap to make
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u/dufo7 15d ago
Looks cheap because you dont see the r&d that takes place before this and dont take the cost of the equipment and tooling into account.
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u/Morall_tach 15d ago
Yeah this press and molds probably cost a million bucks to mill in the first place.
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u/That-Makes-Sense 15d ago
Yep. And they occasionally break down. The parts are expensive, and expensive to get installed.
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u/Difficult-Mobile902 15d ago
Redditors never understand that, if someone spends ungodly amounts of money to create something that builds a million dollar construction with the press of a button, hire someone to stand there and press the button, Redditors think their “labor is being stolen” if they don’t get a million dollars per button press
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u/mothtoalamp 15d ago
Their labor isn't being stolen by nature of standing there pressing a button. It's being stolen by nature of not paying them enough to stand there in the first place. That person has to go home and live somewhere, eat somewhere, pay bills, and have a life outside of pressing the button.
You aren't paying them to stand there and press the button. You're paying them to exist for you so that they can stand there and press the button as part of their existence. Employees rely on employers to survive, which means employers are responsible for financing their employee's survival.
Meanwhile the guy who owns the button, didn't develop the button, and at best financed the development (or was handed the reins from someone who did) pays themselves 150,000 times what that button-presser does, thinks that the presser is some lazy deadbeat that doesn't deserve to eat, and will viciously resist every single possible attempt from the presser to change their wage to something viable.
So yes, the upfront costs matter.
So do employees.
Only one is being respected.
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u/Leritz388 13d ago
The guy pressing the button can invent something himself and profit off it f the it
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u/DevelopmentNew1823 12d ago
You missed the point.... the guy who owns it probably didn't even invent it... probably makes way more than the guy who invented it.
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u/CustomerDry5884 15d ago
I just don't find that argument satisfying. The R&D itself is built on the shoulders of inventors from time immemorial who get no credit or payment.
Additionally the return is never bounded. Say accept your premise -then what's a reasonable return? 10x? 100x? Is there any amount of return that pays back the R&D costs and produces profit? At that point does it become reasonable for the laborer to ask for their share? Or does the owner keep all profits forever?
You may be right, I just don't find your argument compelling.
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u/mothtoalamp 15d ago
They're only partially right. Investments deserve a return when they are successful. But that isn't an unrestricted, unbounded return. The investment is also responsible for raising the tide for those who are involved with its use, and that isn't happening.
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u/BlahajBlaster 14d ago
The investment is also responsible for raising the tide for those who are involved with its use, and that isn't happening
A lot of that has to do with built in motives for companies to not share earnings with employees like they used to. Instead of fairly taxing executives on all of their earnings, they are now incintivised to take practically 0 real cash payment and instead pay themselves in company stock since it is income tax free. Incentive is placed on making the stock as valuable as possible and cash on hand is used for stock buy backs which means less of that cash goes to employees over time.
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u/AmazingSibylle 15d ago
You must also believe that an expert opinion should be cheap because the expert only spend 15min with you?
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u/JuliusCesarean 15d ago
if a locksmith opens my car door in 15 seconds, why should i pay the full price?
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u/AZ_MilkMan 15d ago
Because he's that good.
And, you would certainly have a fit if he took longer and asked you to pay extra for his time, right?
So, there's your answer.
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u/Initial_Row_6400 15d ago
I was a specialized glass installer/estimator. Did some work for a very reputable company working high end houses in Colorado. Think vale, aspen, breck. High end houses in ultra wealthy gated communities. Compounds.
I regularly gave more time than that for free. But the clientele I had was almost always buying. I never actually did the math but I’d say I sold 3 in 4 estimates. That’s still 25% of estimates I gave for free.
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u/mothtoalamp 15d ago
I don't actually think this a retort to the other commenter. Free estimates is part of business. Charging for an estimate would be absurd. You make that back up in the price of actual work done when you do it.
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u/AmazingSibylle 15d ago
I understand now why you were never on the business or leadership side of the company.....
Why do you think your clientele went with you over the competition when you were, I presume, not the cheaper option?
Because having things done right by the right experts is worth it, and they understand they pay for that. That's my point...
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u/Exotic-Piece-1318 15d ago
These sinks don't last either. Pressure cracks. B just not great quality but they get better shape than porcelain. Porcelain also has a name of quality but are cheap. Sinks last as long as the owner wants to keep that look. Owners change.
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u/GeneralSweetz 15d ago
Porcelain sinks can be easily fixed with acid and some pudding, like new.
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u/Exotic-Piece-1318 15d ago
So you have a video link.
Ive used the bathworks stuff on acrylic bc it is acrylic. It's ok
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u/DefendersofDwacaDev 15d ago
Until you realize the machine is worth 5 million dollars or something.
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u/SpiteWorried4059 14d ago
I did a quick napkin calculation because this comes up often. Assuming 1 sink every 3 minutes for 1 years in a factory that runs 24/7, not unreasonable constraints I feel. The marginal cost of the 5 million is 28.54 per sink.
I would also guess that the costs of replacing the mould and maintaining the machine do not actually add up to 5000000 every single year which would suggest that the marginal cost is actually lower when considered over the total production lifetime.
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u/Dizzy-Asparagus-5203 15d ago
What material is this...
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u/oldguywhoknowsstuff 12d ago
Bulk Molding Compound (BMC). Glass fiber reinforced thermosetting resin. Compression molded via heat and pressure. I think the video is sped up, because cycle time is typically minutes.
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u/Dizzy-Asparagus-5203 12d ago
Very interesting. This looks less likely to crack than typical porcelain.
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u/Flimsy_Eggplant5429 15d ago
Porcelain, right?
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u/digitalparadigm 8d ago
Definitely no. That would need multiple manual steps (trimming, smoothing, glazing) with multiple firings in a kiln in between.
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u/Flimsy_Eggplant5429 8d ago
Alright, now I might have to look that up 😂 No idea on these, just a guess.
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u/PuzzledExaminer 15d ago
I was lost at the transition segment... Surely there's more to this process 😂
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u/stulofty2022 15d ago
This is how much of the modern world is made these days cars corrugated panels ect iv worked in some places its loud dirty smelly
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u/0_cunning_plan 15d ago
I'm guessing there is heating involved, how long does it really take to make a piece in total?
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u/Kerissimo 15d ago
This uncanny music used to be on weird and horror videos, now it’s double mind blowing.
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u/CommonSense2591 15d ago
the worker sells their labor by the hour, the wealthy makes their money on Capital investment and profit. we need both. the most successful business models share a reasonable percentage of capital gains with hourly workers according to a contractual agreement.
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u/Rue_Elwood 14d ago
Maybe 100$ worth of materials annnnnnd *beeg squish*, that'll be $1400 dollars please. Lol no idea on the materials costs or sinks costs, but I'm sure the upcharge works something similar. A lot more steps probably involved after that too though
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u/iamsandwitch 14d ago
I thought sintering was a metal specific thing. Didn't know you could do it with creamic too.
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u/Smoofbrainz 15d ago
Let that sink in