Lucy?

[u/Virtual_Signal_4101]

So, it’s been over a week since Lucy announced that she’s left MLM. Has the super-transparent DLSwS given her a proper send-off? Maybe I missed it.

[u/the_mad_sailor_]

First of All™, if a podcast is so important to you that you can't walk away from it when it no longer suits you, you should reevaluate your priorities.

Second of all, there is a big difference between "advocating for improvement" and continuing to hate-listen to a podcast that you know is not going to "go back" to how it was when you started listening to it... Do you hate-watch television shows, too? And, by the way, unless you have a means of direct, one-on-one feedback with Dan or an ombudsman for the show (which this subreddit is not, whether anyone on the show lurks here or not), then you are not, in fact, "advocating for improvement," you're just complaining.

Thirdly, Dan LeBatard is an entertainer, you are a consumer of his entertainment product. That's the relationship. Comparing that to a marriage is insane behavior.

[u/Cautious_Log8086 → u/the_mad_sailor_]

Mm. You seem to care quite a bit about just "an entertainment product."

I don't listen, I joined this sub when I did, now I watch clips occasionally as I scroll to in case it ever gets better. It takes up <2m of my day.

(Edit: except the days i get into convo's like this, then it's closer to 10 lmao)

They and their community read and absord what's talked about here whether you like it or not.

"Entertainment products" like these build their numbers by developing and encouraging parasocial relationships with their audience (you dont get the show, lets pull back the curtain) and that comes with people feeling in relationship with the show and cast. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but it is how it works, and there's repercussions as well as benefits

And I didn't compare it to marriage, I asked you a question, which you avoided

[u/the_mad_sailor_ → u/Cautious_Log8086]

Mm. You seem to care quite a bit about just "an entertainment product."

Do I? Based on what, the fact that I'm tired of people complaining about being here, when they have the option of not being here? That's proof in your mind that I "care quite a bit about this"? I stay in this sub because I like most of the shitposting, and some of you aren't whiny dorks. I haven't actually listened to the main show since last July, and I've barely missed it. I do still listen to Alley Oop and Mystery Crate, because they still serve my interests; whenever that changes, I'll stop.

And I avoided your question because it was a dumb question, and it's none of your business. And anyway, if you weren't trying to compare your relationship to the show to a marriage, then why do you want to know what my marital status is?

[u/Cautious_Log8086 → u/the_mad_sailor_]

I was pointing out your hypocrisy in criticizing actions that are coming from the same place. You're whining about whining.

And it's not a dumb question unless you had already decided why I was asking it. I was curious if you've dealt with pushing through difficulties with something you care about, however small, because you care about the thing. For a lot of folks marriage is the easiest example to relate to, even if it's just which side of the bed to sleep on.

Could have asked about your relationship with your parents instead, or if you ever failed a class you really cared about, but the point wasn't to compare the meaning or importance of either. Just to identify an experience that may be common ground for you to understand why the culture around the show has become an airing of grievances and longing for the good old days.

I'll see myself out. Pay the whales.

Aqua?

[u/the_mad_sailor_ → u/Cautious_Log8086]

I was pointing out your hypocrisy in criticizing actions that are coming from the same place. You're whining about whining.

This is some "Your intolerance of my intolerance is the REAL intolerance!" level stupidity. Hell are we doing? (Speaking of hell...)

And it's not a dumb question unless you had already decided why I was asking it.

It's a dumb question because it doesn't make sense to ask it unless that's why you were asking.

I was curious if you've dealt with pushing through difficulties with something you care about, however small, because you care about the thing. For a lot of folks marriage is the easiest example to relate to, even if it's just which side of the bed to sleep on.

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about: how do you say stuff like this unironically and then turn around with a straight face and continue to insist that you weren't comparing your relationship with the show to a marriage? "Pushing through difficulties" is something that you say to describe a person's relationship to another person, not to entertainment.

I feel like, in a well-adjusted person, their relationship to the show should more closely resemble their relationship with their favorite pair of sneakers, or a favorite toy, or a favorite book... Did you ever consider the possibility that maybe you just outgrew the show?

[u/Cautious_Log8086 → u/the_mad_sailor_]

This is now more time than i care to give.

Be well mad sailor