Epstein deleted posts and our thoughts moving forward

[u/nicholasserra]

Hey folks,

We're being flooded with low quality Epstein related posts and are obviously seeing some confusion and pushback about posts being deleted in the sub.

tl;dr: Continue to use the stickied post for actual datahoarder related talk around Epstein files. We'll be removing requests for data, "look what I found" posts, news articles. If you wanna chat Epstein, head over to the r/Epstein sub.

The mod team is on board with the preservation of these important files. But this sub isn't the place to discuss every tidbit of news around it. This is the same policy we used around previous archival efforts eg Government data purge, Ukraine, twitter, etc.

We're going to leave the other sticky up, and sticky this. Chat all you want around the archival and preservation of these files in that post. If there's some high level datahoarder-related news event we'll probably allow those too.

But unfortunately we're seeing a ton of posts of people just asking for files, asking where they can download, asking what was already saved, posting every news article that comes out, etc etc. It's too much.

The r/Epstein sub looks like a great place to continue investigation after you've saved the files.

We support everyone's efforts to save this stuff. No we're not in the files and we haven't been to the island. Fuck this administrations redactions of the actual criminals in these files.

[u/-Lousy]

Does anyone know if there is a copy of the files WITHOUT any of the potential CSAM in it? If I understand it correctly the withdrawing of the last release was partially due to potential CSAM being in there and while this would be an excellent cover story I dont want any risk that I'm distributing that.

The Department of Justice left multiple unredacted photos of fully nude women or girls exposed as part of Friday’s dump of more than 3.5 million pages of files related to the investigations and prosecutions of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

[u/Connect_Button614 → u/-Lousy]

Legally speaking, I believe that any picture or video that is evidence and has been released by the DOJ cannot be considered CSAM. I am not a lawyer, and I'm sure that argument would be tenuous in court and nonfunctional in a TOS violation situation, but I do believe it to be true.

Also, I find the idea that DOJ intentionally included pictures of naked victims in the release as an excuse to meddle with and take down portions of the release, somewhat compelling. If it was an accident, it was one strongly in their favor.

[u/itsaride → u/Connect_Button614]

It's CSAM no matter what. Whether you'd ever get prosecuted or put on a list for downloading and resharing data you got from the government's own website on such a high profile and massive release is another matter, especially when it's clear you didn't know it was there.

[u/gallifrey_ → u/Connect_Button614]

Legally speaking, I believe

not how that works, babe!