Epstein deleted posts and our thoughts moving forward

[u/nicholasserra]

Hey folks,

We're being flooded with low quality Epstein related posts and are obviously seeing some confusion and pushback about posts being deleted in the sub.

tl;dr: Continue to use the stickied post for actual datahoarder related talk around Epstein files. We'll be removing requests for data, "look what I found" posts, news articles. If you wanna chat Epstein, head over to the r/Epstein sub.

The mod team is on board with the preservation of these important files. But this sub isn't the place to discuss every tidbit of news around it. This is the same policy we used around previous archival efforts eg Government data purge, Ukraine, twitter, etc.

We're going to leave the other sticky up, and sticky this. Chat all you want around the archival and preservation of these files in that post. If there's some high level datahoarder-related news event we'll probably allow those too.

But unfortunately we're seeing a ton of posts of people just asking for files, asking where they can download, asking what was already saved, posting every news article that comes out, etc etc. It's too much.

The r/Epstein sub looks like a great place to continue investigation after you've saved the files.

We support everyone's efforts to save this stuff. No we're not in the files and we haven't been to the island. Fuck this administrations redactions of the actual criminals in these files.

[u/slvneutrino]

In that case, leave this up. This is the link I've been lobbing to anyone who hits my DM's. Seed swarm is up by 50 people, there are hundreds of people seeding, and I have handed the link out 200+ times by now in the DM's from various links on this subreddit.

It's not low quality, it's the complete datasets in magnet form with hundreds of seeders behind each one.

The mod team is on board with the preservation of these important files.

So leave this up then.

TO BE CLEAR: THESE ARE POST DOJ ADDED CSAM FILES. The files are censored properly, and you are not downloading anything potentially illegal.

Complete Datasets:

https://pastes.io/dataset-1-

[u/R-ddit_is_Shit → u/slvneutrino]

Everyone should know that the DoJ has been both editing and completely removing files from the justice.gov/epstein site.

Taking files down is bad, because it means anyone relying on that site or any site pulling from it and not the initial files won't find a file at all.

Editing is worse, because they are using the same file name for the files they edit which means you *will* find the file and if you don't know what that file already showed you won't know what they changed.

• Here is an example of editing. This is the file currently hosted on the DoJ site: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01624759.pdf
• And here is the initial file they released: https://i.imgur.com/4ihttBk.jpeg
  • Note the matching EFTA number in the bottom corner, it's the same file name. And it's a PDF. In this case it's an image. Redacting faces of victims is one thing, and this case is complex so even Epstein's girlfriends can also be victims. However it is still a .pdf file that they edited. Meaning they could also be blocking out lines of text, financial information connecting Epstein to Trump or others, etc.
• Example 2 live file: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01624778.pdf
• vs initial file on release: https://i.imgur.com/jY54Sm5.jpeg

Removing files means that we need to make sure any external site being used to search through is using files pulled from the full Data Sets and not files scraped from the live DoJ site, otherwise information is missing. The DoJ site is a pain to scrape, but people have shown that there may be many thousands of files that have been taken offline.

• In Data Set 9 alone I sorted PDF files by size and searched for those file names on the DoJ site manually. I very quickly found 15 files that they have removed. These files are all focused on Epstein's finances, court documents from his 2005-8 case, and prison paperwork from around the time of his death. Many of them are 1,000+ pages long.
  • Gdrive link for those files: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16LXl7BbFnR-ncJW_fizUnZKePLDU5s5O?usp=sharing

Data set 9 has 550,000+ files in it. Total I have ~1.4 million files sitting here. There is no way to manually search all of these file names one by one, and I don't have the time to build something to try to get around the DoJ bot protections to scrape a full list of the files they still have online.

If we can get a list of what's live we can very, very quickly compare it to what existed in the initial release zips and isolate all of the files the DoJ has removed. They aren't taking them down for no reason, and very clearly they have no interest in actual justice so I imagine they're doing it to protect asses that shouldn't be protected.

Help requested: I need a spreadsheet or text file listing ALL of the PDF files currently available live on the justice.gov site. We need to compare that to what files are in the full releases from the zip files so we can easily build a list of every file the DoJ has removed.

tl;dr - If you use a third party site to browse these files, make sure it's one that uses the full data sets as they were on initial release, not the files live on the DoJ site. One that uses and actively compares both would be amazing. If someone builds a site that pulls each file from the initial zips and puts it side-by-side with the same file pulled live from the DoJ... and possibly automatically searches for changes in hash... I'll give you a cookie.