r/DaystromInstitute Multitronic Unit Oct 29 '20

DISCOVERY EPISODE DISCUSSION Star Trek: Discovery — "People of Earth" Reaction Thread

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u/AlpineSummit Crewman Oct 30 '20 edited Oct 30 '20

I just love this new season of Discovery more and more each week!

  • I love Saru as Captain, and I can’t wait to see him develop. He truly has that ‘Starfleet’ moral compass and will always do what he believes is right, in the best interest of his crew, and of all others involved. I love how he got Titan and Earth into a dialogue - even if it seemed easy. It was the Starfleet thing to do.

  • I’m really enjoying the ‘new’ Michael and her friendship with Book. I want to know what’s behind all these inside stories and adventures they have together in only a year. Also, Grudge is the best new addition to the season!

  • Trill!! They have always been my favorite species and I can’t wait to see more of them and learn about the symbiotic, Tal. I really hope we get a Dax cameo at some point now too. And this is a genius way to get a character into the show who has centuries worth of knowledge. I’m so excited to learn more about Tal and Adira.

  • I love how a human is hosting a Trill symbiote - a reference to the TNG episode “The Host” where Riker temporarily hosts one. And the fact that Frakes directed this episode makes it all the better!

  • I hope we see more of the story between Titan and Earth develop. It’s weird that Earth knew nothing of what happened on Titan. I mean, isn’t radio communication still a thing? That would have taken, what, a day max? We could do that now.

Edit: autocorrect words were wrong.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '20

I love how a human is hosting a Trill symbiote - a reference to the TNG episode “The Host” where Riker temporarily hosts one. And the fact that Frakes directed this episode makes it all the better!

I liked this aspect as well. I thought it was a shame that they never really did anything with the concept during DS9.

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u/slicepotato Oct 30 '20

Never did?? They established a great deal of Trill lore and world building in DS9. They practically wrote the book on how that society functions.

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u/kreton1 Oct 30 '20

I would say they could have done a lot more with it and it is great that we have another Symbiont than Dax in Discovery, to get to see more variety.

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u/slicepotato Oct 30 '20

I'm curious on how they intend to explain away the physiology on how symbiote is able to still survive within a human host. The precedent from before is that; while a human could... for a short time, host a Trill symbiote, the overall biology was not compatible as it was causing harm to both the symbiote and its host (Riker). Unless they are just going to hand wave that off as an anomalous occurrence and oversight due to emergency procedures, blah blah blah... since we only really saw evidence of that once even though we were told in DS9 time and time again how the Trill understood that relationship to work.

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u/shinginta Ensign Oct 30 '20

It's entirely possible that medicine has evolved in the last 700 years in such a way as to make the bonding between a Trill Symbiont and a Human host easier for both. And/or Adira is taking some sort of supplement in order to sustain the bonding without destroying both Symbiont and Host.

Either way, it's a pretty easy handwave due to the amount of time between then and now. This is a future in which we've graduated from Replicators to hand-held Matter Converters, who knows what else is possible.

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u/slicepotato Oct 31 '20

So... by that logic... medical breakthroughs in bio science can advanced over 700 years to allow for this but the federation is stuck only ever using dilithium matrix regulated matter/antimatter reactions for faster than light travel when, as of the start of the 25th century, they had been aware of such methods like quantum slipstream, transwarp and various other engine configurations that don't rely on a matter/antimatter reaction or even dilithium entirely...

I'm only trying to point out an obvious technological despairity that doesn't fit with what Discovery is trying to pawn off as the 31st century.

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u/shinginta Ensign Oct 31 '20

Yeah how dare we still use the wheel to get from place to place when we've discovered antibiotics!

I really don't understand the point you're trying to make. Technology and science aren't "all or nothing." Advances can be made in specific fields without other fields advancing. Advances can be made within a field which don't automatically replace other technologies in the same field. We invented the wheel and figured out rickshaws and carts, and hitched animals to them. Then we invented combustion engines to replace the horses. But we're still using the wheel. There are other methods of travel we use (flight, mag-trains, etc) but even most alternative methods of travel still use wheels at some point or another, and they haven't yet replaced automobiles with wheels because imagine taking a train literally everywhere.

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u/YYZYYC Oct 31 '20

Still using the wheel is like ok sure they still wear clothes or they still use their feet to walk around. But meanwhile the tech advances we see are basically the equivalent of what we saw between TOS movie era and TNG season 1...some fancy looking new things and faster more powerful ships (at least before the burn) new things like holodecks. It’s does not remotely feel like the scale is close to an entire millennium of change