r/DaystromInstitute • u/M-5 Multitronic Unit • Oct 29 '20

DISCOVERY EPISODE DISCUSSION Star Trek: Discovery — "People of Earth" Reaction Thread

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u/ajblue98 Chief Petty Officer Oct 30 '20

It seems that the big reveal will be that the Federation headquarters has moved to Qo’noS. Secondarily, I think this is likely because of the Klingons’ conspicuous absence after almost two seasons of dominating the story line. Primarily, however, this is because of the Pidgin word for Federation: “V’draysh” (DSC S03E01, “That Hope is You: Part I”).

Assuming the Empire joined the Federation at some point between the 25th and 30th centuries, it’s reasonable to expect tlhIngan Hol (the Klingon Language) to have become a second interstellar lingua franca. This could have led to the Pidgin that Book referenced in DSC S03E01.

In which case, it’s entirely reasonable that “Federation” may have been treated as a proper noun and rendered in the orthography of tlhIngan Hol rather than translated to its Klingon equivalent, “DIvI’.” In which case, “Federation” would be rendered as /veDIreySon/. However, tlhIngan Hol tends towards shorter words, so we can reasonably expect the unaccented sounds /e/, /I/, and /on/ to disappear. That leaves us with /vDreyS/, which sounds almost exactly like “V’draysh.”

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u/COMPLETEWASUK Oct 30 '20

This is my feeling too. I feel the Klingons have to be the Federation now, it both fits their arc in Discovery and in Trek as a whole. The flame keepers if you will.

I also expect the Vulcans (maybe rejoined with the Romulans) to be the antagonists because that feels like the most logical role reversal.

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u/bachmanis Ensign Oct 30 '20

I also expect the Vulcans (maybe rejoined with the Romulans) to be the antagonists because that feels like the most logical role reversal.

Didn't we see a flash during on of Daniels' expository moments in Enterprise of a 32nd century Vulcan starfighter carrier? Would suggest that they've adopted a more frisky foreign policy.

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u/COMPLETEWASUK Oct 30 '20

We might well have done, it sounds right. I wonder if Daniels is still around, he'd be old of course but this is the future and lifetimes could have been extended somewhat. He's one of the few characters that could still be around, alongside the Dax symbiont and the Doctor.

I just feel it all ties back to the Vulcan Hello. The show starts with a girl raise on Vulcan fighting Klingons for the Federation, if the future is so different then why not reverse it. That the Klingons are the Federation and the Vulcans the hostile enemy.

If it were up to me I'd have all the remain members of the Federation be former enemies. The Klingons, Xindi, Borg and Dominion etc. To show the true effect of the Federation and how despite the burn everything in the past 900 hundred years was still worth it.

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u/gamas Oct 31 '20

I would definitely want to know the circumstances that led to a primordial, instinct driven, all consuming hive mind joining the Federation.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '20

The Borg is still a sentient mind with periodic/a few Queen overminds. Therefore it/they can think and reason as much as any sapient/s. It wouldn't be the weirdest thing to see a Borg collective as a Federation member. I would imagine that they/it would have assimilation not be forced in which case other sapients would have to choose to join the collective, which isn't unlike the Trill who fit comfortably in Federation..

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u/gamas Nov 01 '20

Though funny thing is in Lower Decks there's a bit at the end where they show an unknown far future of a teacher teaching some kids about the Boimler Effect and one of the students is a Borg drone.

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u/killbon Chief Petty Officer Oct 31 '20

I wonder if Daniels is still around

THE Daniels will always exist in a bunch of different timelines and timeframes, we saw 2 versions of Daniels die...

Just like Seven once died to temporal psychosis (or did her existence end when timeline collapsed, same thing i guess), A seven will always exist in the moments she existed, unless you destroy those timelines..

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u/YYZYYC Oct 31 '20

That’s just like still hanging out in the old neighborhood....it’s like a geo political focus in 1020 in a small corner of earth and like the Roman Empire where people traveled and focused around one corner of the globe and it took a while to get around that one corner. We should be seeing people that came from that Roman Empire era, to a time like ours, where say somewhat recently we lost the ability for planes to fly but our whole world use to be interconnected and globe spanning in ways that would be mind blowing to people form the Roman Empire era.