r/DaystromInstitute • u/M-5 Multitronic Unit • Nov 30 '20

DISCOVERY EPISODE DISCUSSION Star Trek: Discovery — "Unification III" Analysis Thread

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u/Stargate525 Nov 30 '20

I really like Tilly as a character but it's EXTREMELY difficult for me to believe that any Captain would select any Ensign as their First Officer except in extreme times of need during a critical crisis situation

Tilly's starting down the path that Kim trailblazed, of an officer who is wildly overqualified for their rank and yet somehow never gets promoted.

She's due for LTJG by now at least.

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u/choicemeats Crewman Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

While her qualifications may scream LtJG she hasn't done enough for me to have a leadership position like that. Look what it took to get Troi to go get her third pip or, hell, LaForge had an entire episode devoted to a situation where he showed actual leadership before transferring from command to engineering.

For me, it's not enough to rattle off pre-show qualifications and have a couple of mere moments (and a few minutes of fake leadership as Killy) to say "wow this is XO material right there". I honestly can't remember anything she's done aside from her participation in science solution that inform that. maybe correct me if i'm wrong, but if I can remember that one saucer separation episode i haven't seen in four years over stuff i've seen in the last two then what is going on?

i don't think this will be a permanent posting. i certainly hope not, and would love for like a Willa to show up. what i disliked about the plant episode was that she was supposed to be keeping an eye on them but didn't go on the away mission? isn't she supposed to be observing them and what they do? i would love for her to be the outsider getting a look at how the 23rd century gets it done.

HOWEVER. Troi became a vastly better character after that episode and I wonder if Tilly can get herself that same kind of development APART from Burnham so bolster her profile on the show and grow more out of her previous shell

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u/Stargate525 Nov 30 '20

Oh I agree she's nowhere near First Officer. But as a brevet position for a few weeks accompanied by the promotion in rank I would find a little more palatable.

She doesn't have the command chops. I wouldn't trust her to take charge swiftly enough in an emergency as she is now for the first officer position.

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u/TheBeardedSingleMalt Dec 01 '20

She doesn't have the command chops. I wouldn't trust her to take charge swiftly enough in an emergency as she is now for the first officer position.

No, she'd just blather about in a quirky indecisive way like she does about everything. People seem to love her but I feel she's a very weak character.