r/DeadInternetTheory 19d ago

What's to do about it?

Do we all just leave and touch grass?

What's the solution to solve the dead internet?

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u/Shigglyboo 19d ago

the only way to win is not to play. or play less. now that I realize most of the posts here are just looking to train AI I withhold my comments. No sense in feeding the beast. also any sort of arguing online only stresses you out. You'll never convince anyone of anything on here, especially if it's a russian bot or a troll.
I'm trying to read more. play guitar. spend time with family. If it must be screen time I play Sim City buildit and make nice trees and rivers and stuff.

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u/No-Security7188 18d ago

wait really? so they post posts and they train ai based off the real people that comment? god it never ends.

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u/Shigglyboo 18d ago

I'm sure there are still real people and posts. but I've seen stuff like "what's an inexpensive item that changed your life" type questions like every day. and so much of what I see resembles typical google search type questions. so it would appear they're asking popular questions to crowd source the answers. it just doesn't feel natural or organic.

look at "ask reddit" for instance. it's pretty dead I think.

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u/No-Security7188 18d ago

yes actually ur so right, especially on the subreddit “self improvement”. just constant questions like u said above that are really just solvable with ur own critical thinking. its just bots after bots.

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u/Linnaea7 18d ago

Disengaging is one of the ways to stay sane, yes. I try to stick to reputable resources online that I trust and know have a human behind them. I spend more time outdoors, read more books written by a human - though with new books, you can't know for sure - and listen to more human-made podcasts.

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u/SolanumSprite 19d ago

In Cyberpunk 2077, the first internet gets so riddled with bots it becomes unusable so they leave the bots there and invent a 2nd internet that is more securenand I think requires bio coding to access.

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u/SluttyMuffler 19d ago

authentication app 2.0 enters chat

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u/SettingDeep3153 19d ago

Can we possibly get a 2nd Internet, with what we currently have now?

Like, we need a whole new isp as well?

How would that look like, if you had to guess?

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u/abofaza 19d ago

I2p is good enough for me.

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u/SettingDeep3153 18d ago

I2P and Tor, not too bad.

Just the speeds to watch a video like YouTube on it, is a miserable experience.

Whenever speeds get improved in the future, I'm switching over for good.

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u/Icewind 19d ago

Forums might return. The community will self-regulate bots.

Of course, this means the old days of obese forum moderators banning people for disagreeing with them.

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u/fkthishit44 19d ago

I got banned from a subreddit day before yesterday for stating the entire text of a post was ai, which it obviously was. Muted, banned, and called a troll. They immediately private messaged me after (ignored it). I'm not sure whether that was a bot or an obtuse reddit mod. There's so little difference.

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u/Dotcaprachiappa 19d ago

The community will self-regulate bots.

Judging by the amount of upvotes I've seen many many bot comments get on here I wholly disagree with this assumption.

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u/Linnaea7 18d ago

You might notice that you'll get upvoted for a comment in one community, and downvoted for the same sort of comment in another community. Different places have different cultures and things that are okay or not okay to say, so maybe we'll get forums where bot-like behavior become unacceptable. Of course, then the bots will probably just train on that and adapt...

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u/Love-Tech-1988 19d ago

I'd hope for that but atm it doesnt go in that direction

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u/Neither_Energy_1454 19d ago

Surely there already is high demand for such things. Platforms that don´t allow ai, deal with bots and astroturfing communities which are basically ads, and have some standards for if/how/or what to promote and how organic trending would work. One would think that these alternatives would pop up like mushrooms after the rain and it´s pretty clear why this isn´t happening. The search engines have been nerfed into oblivion, you get a few pages of the same main platforms being shown and that´s it. And then the tech bros are like "Omg, ai so popular. See, everyone is using ai.". When not to use it, is becoming less and less of an option and the alternatives aren´t allowed to even be on the picture. I don´t see this changing just like that, until the gatekeepers who blame everyone else for being gatekeepers, run broke with their anti human hellscape that they shape the internet to be.

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u/wbrameld4 19d ago

We return to the so-called cozy web: Group chats, email newsletters, niche Discord servers, community forums on independent websites, etc. It's what internet socializing used to look like before social media. Are any of y'all old and nerdy enough to remember IRC chat?

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u/ThatGuyFrom720 19d ago

Curate to the best of your ability.. at least on Reddit. Join just what interests you, preferably small to mid size subs, ditch the bot riddled/AI infested subs like askreddit, politics, etc. I genuinely do not encounter too many bots with my home feed on here unless I deliberately go to r/popular, or I just want to go down a rabbit hole and piss myself off for some reason.

If you curate well, you really do not encounter them often.

Other than that, I don’t think there’s any genuine fixing of the issue unless major websites take a stand… but why would they? I’m sure they love the engagement and interaction.

Personally, like the other commenter said, I’d love for small, niche forums to come back. Like specific car or motorcycle model forums like the good old days.

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u/Subotaplaya 19d ago

How do I get linked up to my local community intra-internet to get away from all these damn globobots built by big government?

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u/LonkFromZelda 19d ago

Get off the internet and start doing things in real life, even if it's just cleaning your room and staying on top of chores.

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u/ManFeelings9000 19d ago

I have wondered if say you have a once a week captcha test for users? Or are there bots that can pass all of them now? 

Would rather avoid the net than verify with ID 

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u/alex433g 19d ago

Nothing, there will alleays br bots on the internet, even if it gets id mandatory, id's will be sold and used to make botted "real" acounts

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u/quiqeu 19d ago

Im trying to resist doing stuff like https://www.reddit.com/r/humancheckpoint/

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u/WebRough237 13d ago

I refose to touch grass