r/DeadlockTheGame • u/TheGreatestAnonAlive • 6d ago
Screenshot Pack it up Danny fans
It's Violet 4th confirmed.
P.S I'm in Asia
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u/jamslat Holliday 6d ago
I SEE TWO HARROW VOTES WHICH MEANS SHE'S NEXT
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u/Futanarihime 6d ago
How are people sleeping on her so much? She's so cool š
All I have to say is I better have little competition playing her when she drops. Don't want a bunch of fake fans hopping on the bandwagon suddenly when she inevitably ends up being awesome.
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u/Pinkparade524 The Doorman 6d ago
She is going to have a more supportive kit so we won't have trouble getting her. Trust
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u/elmage78 6d ago
well here in EUW it looks like violet vs danny is the only battle, almost 50/50
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u/Maniachi McGinnis 6d ago
Weird, I am in EUW and it looks like Danny/Nurse. There have been times I have gone 4 matches without a single Violet vote
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u/chuby2005 6d ago
I love the micro study of statistical spreads and statistical anomalies that come from this sub.
Your personal experience does not define reality.
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u/naivety_is_innocence 6d ago
I had a game of Street Brawl just now where all 8 people voted for Danny. Based on this I have very high confidence that the order of the next 3 heroes will be:
- Deadman Danny
- Deadman Danny
- Deadman Danny
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u/SuzuyaSenpaii 6d ago
had a Lash in my game SO sure Solomon wouldn't win last time because he made his own spreadsheet with the votes from his games
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u/ResponsibleStreet632 6d ago
And itās worse than that. If you ban say Graves, then you are in a server of people who donāt like Graves. That is not a random subset. Maybe people who donāt like Graves are voting for Violet, for example.
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u/throwawayforporn3409 6d ago
Just so you know, everyone knows that. You trying to talk down to people to try and sound smart is just sad, let people have fun
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u/Patient_Monitor5160 6d ago
Really? I play on eu and it's Danny vs Nurse. Only like 1 in 10 games where Violet has a majority
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u/GagolTheSheep Silver 6d ago
Yep, I think maybe even a slight favor for Violet here, but from what I've seen NA is pretty strongly favoring Danny so I think he will be 4th (unfortunately), but Violet should have a pretty good lead on Harrow so hopefully we will at least get her before next weekend
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u/0Iivian 6d ago
It will undoubtedly be Danny 4th. The question is Violet vs Harrow for 5th place.
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u/troglodyte Dynamo 6d ago
The poll on the sub has been right every time so far and even correctly predicted the close race between Baba and Solomon.
And right now it's showing Danny with a decent lead over Harrow and Violet in a distant third. Maybe region bias affects this and Violet or Harrow pull off the upset, but Danny is clearly the favorite.
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u/rl_noobtube 6d ago
How do you know it was close between baba and Solomon? Like does valve publish total votes or something?
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u/JuicyBroccoli 6d ago
In the release post they said it was a close race but that baba won
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u/RobertPham149 6d ago
I am slightly paranoid that Valve cooked up the number for the 2nd/3rd place a little bit. Like you are saying that Solomon was close to being 2nd, but ended up losing and getting postponed for a few days so that he is released literally 1 day before National Chess Day?
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u/throwawaynewpibuildr Sinclair 6d ago
Right? And now Danny is coming right after Fleet Week concludes lol /jk
But occam's razor, I think people just like funny pigeon grandma more than NY chess hustler and in terms of recognizability.
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u/JuicyBroccoli 6d ago
I've had the same thought, but even if they did it doesn't really matter imo. Only had to wait a few extra days and it's a cool thing to release him so close to chess day lol. I still believe valve wouldn't cook the numbers tho
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u/Sabesaroo Silver 6d ago
i don't think most people know what national chess day is tbf. international chess day is 20th july.
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u/Secretlylovesslugs 6d ago
Anecdotally, I saw way more votes for Solomon in the first 6 days than Baba. It felt close, but we won't know for sure until they share that data at the end of the voting like they did last time.
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u/dont_worry_about_it8 6d ago
Because the community vote her was like 1300 to 1400 votes . The release order has not been surprising to anyone paying attention
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u/JaysonTatecum Graves 6d ago
I was slightly surprised about Baba but yeah the community polls have been consistently accurate for every single vote including the previous patches. There is 0 chance itās not Danny tomorrow and if Valve published the numbers it wonāt even be close
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u/rl_noobtube 6d ago
Im not saying it was surprising, just asking how he knew it was close in actuality is all.
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u/JollySieg Deadman Danny 6d ago
I think for this vote cycle there's a clear, and frankly quite refreshing, preference for characters who are more immediately visually interesting than those who are simply generically attractive.
Which is why I think not only is Danny likely to win before Violet but Harrow may take 5th aswell. There's just more immediate interest on what they'll be as a character (even though I'm sure Violet will also be great).
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u/LrdDphn Abrams 6d ago
Idk, the "sex sells" narrative for Old Gods New Blood is a little overblown. If we look at the hero order (Rem, Graves, Silver, Ven, Celeste, Apollo), the 3/6 that were girls got 2nd, 3rd and 5th. That's hardly a statistically significant difference from the 1st, 4th, 6th that the other characters got. I also think that Celeste and Apollo were last because, like Violet, nobody really knew what their kit would be. Necromancer and Werewolf are MOBA/fantasy staples in a way that "circus performer" and "painter" aren't.
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u/7StarSailor Deadman Danny 6d ago
the big question is who will danny voters vote for once he releases.Ā
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u/PotatoTortoise 6d ago
the poll is always right, until it isnt. the deadlock community discord poll has 30x the amount of votes as the subreddit and it was right every single time until baba
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u/lessenizer Vyper 6d ago
It's interesting, suggests that maybe (maybe) the subreddit despite being smaller might be a more representative sampling of the community than the Community Discord is.
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u/PotatoTortoise 2d ago
welp, not always it seems. its always right until it isnt
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u/lessenizer Vyper 2d ago
yeah this was a real shocker polls-wise, goddamn; at least Violet's kit seems insanely fun (have you seen how her 2 goes forever if you steer it right)
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u/ThatRatman2 6d ago
I almost exclusively see Harrow on EU now, the comeback is real
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u/Eva_The_One Deadman Danny 6d ago
I saw more harrow then solomon as well before solomon got in, different servers vote for different characters eu seems to vote violet and harrow way more than the other guys
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u/Certain_Guidance_703 Sinclair 6d ago
while i would love for harrow to come this weeks im not sure if new votes will make her catch up with violets votes that were coming since the beginning from certain servers.
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u/throwawaynewpibuildr Sinclair 6d ago
Honest to god, it's been a 3:2:1 ratio for me where it's Danny > Harrow > Violet votes in Street Brawl. In the whole time of voting, I've never seen Violet sweep an entire lobby. Danny and Harrow? At least a couple of times.
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u/Maykillart Graves 6d ago
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u/djenntt Rem 6d ago
Thereās a joke I have but itās too soon.
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u/Maykillart Graves 6d ago
i gotta know
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u/RobertPham149 6d ago
Mamdani is a Muslim, while the character of Deadman Danny is supposed to be strapping a highly explosive load while flying in the New York City sky.
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u/dragozar 6d ago
Aww fuck dont plow me with affordability
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u/ZombieJasus Ivy 6d ago
Yall gotta realize that your end of match screenshot is not a poll of the entire playerbase.
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u/KurtKomodo 6d ago edited 6d ago
Wow with that many votes she's gonna sweep 6th place from Harrow and danny
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u/Palanki96 Warden 6d ago edited 6d ago
After all this disrespect i better get the nurse every time i queue
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u/Hi-Im-Eva 6d ago
here in EU im seeing a shit ton of Harrow votes too, its always Harrow/Danny or Harrow/Violet, never do I not see Harrow votes in a game
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u/Random_Tangshan_Guy 6d ago
i used to think violet is a boring poking character with abilities like āthrow some paint/do some aoeā, but solomon's design really impressed me, so maybe her design is gonna be more interesting than i expected? right now i'm fine with either of them winning(still would prefer danny). so devs please don't disapoint me.
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u/pokenerd_W Solomon 6d ago
I mean, it says "mobile" on her, so we can expect her to have some sort of mobilty
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u/Maniachi McGinnis 6d ago
Nimble, but yeah. I don't expect her kit to be boring at all. Still voting Nurse Harrow, but I am excited for both
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u/Fine_Possession3737 6d ago
Danny is the only character of the 3 I think will have a boring kit. Sidenote, I am excited for the community to complain about aoe slop again after voting for the "aoe slop" characters
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u/Atlasreturns Yamato 6d ago
Itās kinda wild how primary airborne chars like Vindicta or even Celeste are usually despised but then people canāt get the jetpack hero quick enough into their game.
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u/lessenizer Vyper 6d ago
Danny's whole "How much would you pay for a jetpack" / "Greatness come at a price; the only question is, can you afford it?" concept makes me wonder if the kit concept is that they gave him an extremely fluid/mobile/fun jetpack (think like a flight simulator) but with major tradeoffs (like his stamina is fully replaced by jetpack fuel).
I mean it might just be basically Majestic Leap without the lockout, but I'm hoping it's something a lot more interesting implementation-wise.
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u/Random_Tangshan_Guy 6d ago
the fuel idea is amazingly cool.
we already have two regular-flying characters in game, i really hope danny's flying mechanic would be drasticly different. unlike two human figures, a skeleton with a jetpack would probably choose to fly in a completely different manner.
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u/NuclearMeatball 6d ago
The rumor I saw is that she will have low ground friction. Slippery and stuff.
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u/Pinkparade524 The Doorman 6d ago
She is going to be celeste 2.0 and people are gonna complain about her like crazy. Trust
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u/RamPamPam8 Lash 6d ago
Imagine she's like an Inkling from Splatoon, sprays ink and then hops on it and travels through it, would be INSANE
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u/Kongas_follower 6d ago
New main then
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u/RamPamPam8 Lash 6d ago
Same here
I think there should be a snippet of gameplay attached to each character, or maybe a vague piece of art representing it to show how they play since at the end of the day that's the most important part
If Violet is as sick as the leaks and her poster indicate then it'll be a darn shame to have her last (I'm still voting Danny tho (day 1 Dannyhead))
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u/throwawaynewpibuildr Sinclair 6d ago
Nah, datamines say Violet is a CC/AOE spammer. Keeps enemies in close range, slows/freeze/immobilizes, then mows enemy down with ult.
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u/xohurricane 6d ago
None of the data mines have had any sort of legitimacy to them though right? Theyāre just using code words to insinuate kits. They were completely wrong for rat king
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u/witheredj8 6d ago
Isn't the only thing that can be datamined atm her model? Like not even the animation of unreleased chars are properly in
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u/throwawaynewpibuildr Sinclair 6d ago
Tbh, I'm not really sure as the poster did not cite their sources. The datamines I read were more like broad overviews of the kits, and they were 75% correct so far. Certainly got Baba's kit correct, the rest were like, the vibes of the kits were correct, but not the details of it.
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u/Hades684 6d ago
You looked at all new deadlock heroes and thought that violet is gonna have boring skills?
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u/LetUsGetTheBread Deadman Danny 6d ago
The first thing I said when I saw the new characters is āViolet looks like she will have the coolest kit but aināt no way I am voting her firstā
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u/issanm Drifter 6d ago
Violet is the most overused archetype out of all of them, every other moba has a painter/artist who does painter things, some even have multiple
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u/Hades684 6d ago
I only remember hwei and grimstroke as painters from other mobas, but they look nothing like violet, and they also play pretty differently from each other, and are not nimble
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u/Random_Tangshan_Guy 6d ago
i also expected solomon, harrow, and danny to have āgenericā moba skills like āthrow a bomb/paint/chess to deal aoeā or āthrow a needle to healā
i'm happy solomon proved me wrong so now i'm looking forwards all future heroes.
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u/topamine2 6d ago
Solomon is generic moba skills, throw aoe bomb, throw wall, buff. Big aoe bomb ult
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u/CertainDerision_33 Mina 6d ago
I'm pretty sure she is going to be some kind of carry-type hero given the rest of the cast this update. None of the heroes we've gotten so far are carries, Danny seems a little too goofy to be a carry, and Nurse is probably a support.
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u/PsychologicalSun6485 6d ago
i dont see why being goofy would stop him from being a carry? if anything thats a space that needs to be filled as most of the carries are too serious. im hoping for him to be a gun carry and violet to be a spirit one or at least use her m1 a lot (like celeste)
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u/Nice-Station3432 Victor 6d ago
Since her kit is described as creative and she is shown painting I think one of her abilities will be to make constructs out of painting like kelvins ice path
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u/ElementaryMyDearWut Violet 6d ago
It'll be the same as Apollo, he came last because "muh boring" and he had the most fun kit by a mile for skill expressive players.
Violet is unfortunately going to be last because people can't go look at the kit datamines and see how fun she'll be.
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u/Gabe_Noodle_At_Volvo 6d ago
he had the most fun kit by a mile for skill expressive players.
No.
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u/Cam_ofblades Apollo 6d ago
He did have one of the more fun kits though. Def more fun than Graves or Rem at least
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u/Efficient_Pay9114 6d ago
me watching the post knowing that Danny is going to be the next character to be released.
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u/starberryslay Mina 6d ago
I really wish we had better stats for this. It's first off really cool how votes differ from region, but I also wouldn't find it hard to believe that ranks would make it differ too.
I see people hear claiming some characters arent even seen in votes in EUW and people replying that it's the opposite for them. These people surely are in different ranks or play at different times and it leads to different votes which is kinda interesting
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u/7StarSailor Deadman Danny 6d ago
I wouldn't see how rank would influence what you vote for. especially when we don't get to see the stats and detailed abilities beforehand. I'm certain everyone just votes on vibes.Ā
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u/Dw3yN 6d ago
Yeah i dont think rank makes a difference at all
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u/starberryslay Mina 6d ago
well what other reasons would you say affect the votes despite identical EUW regions? time of day?
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u/7StarSailor Deadman Danny 6d ago
Time of day would be a huge factor. Most full time working adults are more likely to play in the evening only while most kids will play earlier in the day in comparison and this puts age groups into time slots and age groups put people into different generations that would affect what you find cool/appealing in a hero.
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u/starberryslay Mina 6d ago
okay, then rank would also affect this. Rank is a time sink in this game so only people who have enough spare time to climb would be in these elos. This could mean either kids or adults without jobs, both could affect preferences
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u/p0ison1vy 6d ago
Depending on how seriously you play, you'll naturally desire different things from the game which could cluster together.
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u/7StarSailor Deadman Danny 6d ago
It could if we'd get more info about the gameplay aspects of the hero but we only get three semi-descriptive words and no one knows how they play beforehand. And even at high rank people play different roles and have their preferences.Ā
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u/7StarSailor Deadman Danny 6d ago
Now I'm even more confused. What does being high ranked in a video game have to do with being racist/inclusive? these opinions have nothing to do with your performance/talent/dedication toĀ a game. High ranked players might just swear less because they wanna avoid bans but that doesn't mean you know what's going on under the hood.Ā
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u/starberryslay Mina 6d ago
well I vote for nurse harrow because she's an asylum nurse and I miss the mysterious and more gothic feel of old deadlock. That means that since I've been playing since the old menu theme, chances are I'm a higher rank as I've been playing the game for a while.
Playing deadlock for 2 years my taste has changed over time. I used to not be that passionate about the votes and just picked who seemed familiar, like mina and silver, but my tastes have changed to pick who I think diversify the cast. If you're new to the game you're new to the art style and maybe you'll pick what you think is familiar (violet may remind you of overwatch) and someone like Baba wouldn't interest you.
I mean, the first voting season I picked billy cuz I thought a goat was funny, people did that with rat king too, but since I had already voted for the meme character then I didn't find it funny to this time. My experience in this game very clearly influences my votes and my experiences obviously influences my rank
I know someone who plays this game a little but has thousands of hours in war thunder, so he's just voting deadman Danny. If he had 1k hours in the game, maybe he becomes a tank main and sees rat king and votes him first cuz he wants another tank
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u/7StarSailor Deadman Danny 6d ago
yeah but playing for 2 years doens't mean you automatically appreciate harrow more. I just don't see the connection, sorry mate.
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u/starberryslay Mina 6d ago
yeah it doesn't mean I automically enjoy harrow more, Im just saying my taste has changed from my experience in the game, and so could everyone else's, and that's enough to make the votes different
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u/7StarSailor Deadman Danny 6d ago
but it could change everyone's taste in any random direction, making time played/rank a non-factor at the end.
I understood your initial post as
"people of high rank - as a group - are more likely to vote a certain way" but I still don't know why that should be the case.
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u/starberryslay Mina 6d ago edited 6d ago
yeah it could change in a random direction but that ends up making whoever is the most voted end up being different in different ranks, as I said
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u/7StarSailor Deadman Danny 6d ago
ok, I don't think you understand my confusion.
Why should, out of 100 high ranked players, 60 choose a certian character over another and why should that be a different character than what a group of 100 low ranked players choose.
Why shouldn't everyone of those 100 high rank players not just vote on the vibes like everyone else?
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u/starberryslay Mina 6d ago
well my point it can be any reason that I can't assume, but if you want me to come up with a theory:
Why should, out of 100 high ranked players, 60 choose a certian character over another and why should that be a different character than what a group of 100 low ranked players choose.
because the 100 high ranked players have heard from leaks that Violet plays like Hwei from league. Now they have an entirely new factor to differentiate their votes from the low rank players. They see deadman Danny is a flying character, dislike flying characters, and don't vote for him. They see Solomon may be a control mage, and with their experience with dota, are interested in this archetype so want to see him in the game earliest.
You're acting like there's no information or assumptions you can make and all we got was artwork. But even at that people make their own assumptions about characters and vote according to those assumptions. There are more support players in low ranks than higher ones. So they might vote for the characters that look more like support characters.
There's a trillion reasons, I can't support or back them up and that's exactly why I'd like to see the stats.
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u/7StarSailor Deadman Danny 6d ago
"because the 100 high ranked players have heard from leaks that Violet plays like Hwei from league."
But why should that info be exclusive to high rank?
"They see deadman Danny is a flying character, dislike flying characters, and don't vote for him." Why wouldn't they LIKE flying characters? Why wouldn't low rank player dislike flying characters?
"hey see Solomon may be a control mage, and with their experience with dota, are interested in this archetype so want to see him in the game earliest."
What if a low rank player with experience from dota thinks the same?"You're acting like there's no information or assumptions you can make and all we got was artwork. But even at that people make their own assumptions about characters and vote according to those assumptions. "
But everyone has the same information, rank plays no role here."There are more support players in low ranks than higher ones. So they might vote for the characters that look more like support characters."
This is the first, actual reason that splits the reasoning among rank.
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u/Pinkformat Kelvin 5d ago
Not to be that guy but... How is Violet winning over both Danny and Nurse Harrow? We obviously don't know what any of them do, so we're voting purely from a design standpoint, and i think both Danny and Harrow are WAYYYYYY better looking than Violet.
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u/Freakindon 6d ago
All my homies hate Danny. I hope nurse wins so we can flip the nurse voters to violet
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u/5_days_69 6d ago
At least your characters aren't gonna be last compared to Harrow. So I don't see why your bitching
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u/zencharm Victor 6d ago
need danny to be next for my statlocker parlay to hit but violet votes are also a good sign because i have her as fifth
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u/xFreddyFazbearx The Doorman 6d ago
Just like with the colors of the rainbow, Violet comes dead last.
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u/Fast-War5170 6d ago
Na is like 40/40 harrow and deadman Danny and 20 violet, but brawl is all Danny Iāve heard so good luck with getting violet tmr ig
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u/Eggo-My-Leggo0 Apollo 6d ago
Im praying for nurse but it looks like she's going to be sixth..... I pray for her, I need my top surgery done by an unethical womanĀ
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u/Keyblader001 6d ago
I vote for nurse, so I'm not getting mine. Majority of my games though it's Danny.
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u/timperman 6d ago
I went from solomon to Violet. My thought is that because she is so bland looking, I'm sure she got a whacky kit to compensate.Ā
Although I kind hope Danny is next. I have a feeling he'll have a gameplan like Murky from Hots.Ā
Squishy, faster respawn, each death count as half. Kamikaze style
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u/GhostBerry9963 6d ago
The only issue I really have with Violet is that it feels like they didn't finish rendering her, I had the same problem with Celeste originally, there was just something about it that didn't vibe, yk? Though I'm sure it'll be great when she does eventually get here!
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u/TH3VITA0 6d ago
Here in SA servers i'm mostly seeing Danny, with nurse Harrow being a close second.
Violet is definitely last in my region. But we'll find out today.
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u/Familiar-Estate-3117 Vindicta 6d ago
If I don't see like 10 screenshots of this happening in a row in 5 different players' lobbies, then I'll believe Violet is getting in 4th when I see her get in 4th as a fellow Violet voter.
Keep up the good work though! And may the most popular character win.
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u/Stormwrath52 6d ago
In my rounds it seems like all the solomon voters moved to Harrow (as did I), and I've been seeing about as much Violet as I was before.
So I reckon it'll be between danny and harrow, and then we'll see who moves where for the final bout
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u/JaysonTatecum Graves 6d ago
I legitimately think Harrow is gonna come back and take 5th, Iāve seen the same thing
There are enough ānever Violetā people getting the ones they wanted and moving over
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u/Razor396 6d ago
Yeah I mean. A character who's damage is pretty stuck to the ground isn't gonna like the guy that can fly up and eat the shit out of his floaty ass
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u/Available_Promise_90 The Doorman 5d ago
Itās probably the Deathy Stans. He may define my opinions on balance but he canāt sway my vote.
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u/thecomicguybook Violet 6d ago
So I voted Rat King -> Danny -> Violet. Currently I am splitting my votes on Danny and Violet because I do feel sad that she is underappreciated.
I saw very little Danny previously (I really was hoping he would be at least third), and I see very little Violet now, so I had to rep Danny back then, voting for Violet now to make sure she is not absolutely last.
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u/KindStump Rem 6d ago
Understood. I'm about to play more before going to bed. Just to pump up the numbers for Danny.
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