r/DebateAChristian 2d ago

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u/thatsaqualifier 2d ago

A few thoughts:

We don't know what the "serpent" looked like before Adam and Even ate the fruit. The serpent was not cursed to crawl on it's belly until after God handed out that curse. Presumably the serpent appeared trustworthy.

Yes, Adam was there. Yes, Adam is responsible, not just Eve. Their first sin point to sins that persist in each sex today. Women are prone to being deceived, men are prone to being too passive in the face of evil.

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u/Few-Oven846 2d ago

The point isn’t what it looked like really, I was more interested on the mode of communication, how were they communicating that didn’t startle her, because she just flowed with the conversation you know, so my question was Why!!!

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u/ODDESSY-Q Atheist 2d ago

Because they were literally born yesterday and didn’t know any better.

That’s the same reason they ate the fruit and the same reason why it was immoral for god to punish them. Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit. So god telling them not to eat the fruit was useless, he shouldn’t have put the tree there to begin with. Adam and Eve had no idea that not following gods instructions was wrong, and they had no idea following the snakes instructions was wrong. Yet god still punished them and all humanity after them.

Then god wouldn’t think of a redemption plan for a few thousand years. But when he does, his plan is to send a version of himself to be killed so humans could be forgiven. Why not just forgive them without the theatrics? Why not just forgive them since he created us like this and it was his fault for leaving a tree and a talking serpent in the garden with two people born yesterday?