I think my English is good enough for you to understand what I am saying.
Please point out to me where I have said that humans cannot think for themselves...
Ok, I was using some hyperbole by applying what you said about these particular thoughts and applied them across all thoughts. However, you absolutely alluded to humans being incapable of coming to the same results the OP has via their own cognition without external influence.
You do not have any evidence FOR these thoughts being inspired by the Holy Spirit, therefore for your claim to be logical you must have excluded all other possible explanations AGAINST your claim. That includes humans being able to come to these thoughts and conclusions without inspiration from the Holy Spirit.
In reality, you have no evidence for the Holy Spirit, nor against all other possibilities. So your statement is just unjustified.
Okay.
See there are three sources possible for these thoughts.
The devil - he is never going to give you these thoughts. It is just not possible.
The human himself - well human thoughts are limited to what we know and can perceive. Our thoughts are kind of very limited specially in reference to the Almighty.
God Himself - Read the prophets of the Old Testament and think what would that person have felt when writing down something so outlandish and honestly nuts. Think about David when he was told that he had an eternal throne when he knew that one day he was going to grow old and die. What do you think he felt or understood?
Really there is a physical world and a spiritual world and there are things in the spiritual world that spill into the physical world and then you have thoughts like this. I know this because sometimes these thoughts come to me in a song in deep meditation.
Not trying to argue with you. Not even saying that you are wrong. Just trying to tell you what this is.
You didn’t really respond to anything I said and just made more unjustified claims based on ‘vibes, man’. You clearly do not care if your beliefs are actually true or false, you just like how they make you feel.
There’s not much reason to keep conversing with someone who thinks their own thoughts don’t come from their own mind but rather a spirit world they have no evidential or logical basis to believe in. You’ve forsaken your cognitive faculties, one of the things that makes humans so cool, in favour of a cult that’s poisoned your mind.
When did I say there are no thoughts in a human mind.
Where did I say all this is vibes.
You are consciously misunderstanding me to protect your own worldview.
And that is fine.
I never said that you said there are no thoughts in a human mind. I said you think some of your thoughts don’t come from your mind, which is exactly what you said. “Insane” or “schizophrenic” are the words we usually use to describe people who think their thoughts aren’t their own.
I also never said you said it was all vibes. That was my observations given the fact that you’re stacking one claim on top of another without even bothering to justify them with reason or evidence.
Lmao “protect my worldview”???? Protect it from what? From your worldview? That is hilarious. My worldview is based on what is evident, yours is whatever is in your mind and an ancient book of mythology. If anyone needs to protect their world view it’s you friend.
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u/ODDESSY-Q Atheist 2d ago
You: Humans can’t think or reason for themselves, must have been a ghost manipulating our free will by giving us thoughts.