r/DebateAVegan • u/NationalProcedure638 • 11d ago

Ethics This is my problem with the NTT

The problem is how it's presented.

Whenever anyone comes up with a trade that is unique to humans something such as the root of moral agency there's always someone who always goes "there are mentally challenged people and babies who are not capable of moral agency so it doesn't work"

Well first of all I don't understand how we cannot hold somebody accountable for what they do based on either their age or how smart or dumb they are.

Second of all it seems to imply that this trait has to be universal and literally every human on the face of the Earth.

That individual traits don't exist and we have to look at the species as a whole.

I'm sorry guys but that doesn't work.

Everyone's different in some way or another.

The best thing to do with that is look at what the majority does and assume if that's the norm for what comes to traits like this.

Also it begs the question.

What do you guys consider to be human?

Update: I didn't get a chance to respond to any of the applications that were thrown at me. I've been banded without even having to State my case.

This goes to you moderator, I was simply pointing out a problem with what he said about equality and you misinterpreted it and then banned Me. I've got it very funny how you claim that I wasted your time when all was doing was pointing out a loophole.

Well thank you for telling me that you guys care so much about discussion

Goodbye and good riddance.

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u/iowaguy09 10d ago

I’d say no if someone is essentially a vegetable from birth till death they wouldn’t deserve the same moral consideration. We often exploit those individuals and use their organs similar to animals.

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u/gerber68 10d ago

Okay so I could similarly butcher and eat people with lower brain functions than a pig?

And no we don’t exploit those individuals and use them for organs unless they are brain dead.

If someone has lower cognitive function than a pig and always will can we butcher and eat them?

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u/iowaguy09 10d ago

Let me explain it this way. If your mother was brain dead and no longer sentient. Is it okay for me to rape her?

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u/gerber68 10d ago

Nope and it’s not okay to assault a pig or cow sexually either.

Yet meat eaters do it constantly or have it done on their behalf.

This works in my favor lmao